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> I don't see Linux users demanding snaps in large numbers For me, Snap is the best package system. When I publish new version of Wekan Snap, it's updated ver

by xet7 6y ago

> I don't see Linux users demanding snaps in large numbers For me, Snap is the best package system. When I publish new version of Wekan Snap, it's updated very fast to those 8k servers around the world where someone has installed Wekan. Canonical has paid all that huge bandwidth, server and admin cost to maintain snap build and download servers. For me, publishing Snap version is free. When Snap is updating on some server, there is very short amount of downtime, and then Wekan is up again. Wekan Snap is in strict sandbox, and can not write to directories outside of /var/snap/wekan/common. Compared to Docker, Docker updates much slower and uses much more disk space with all those layers. Compared to Flatpak, Flatpak uses much more disk space.

simion314 6y ago
Sorry, what I meant is that people that don't run Ubuntu don't seem interested in having snap by default in their distribution , at least I only see the voices shouting that deb is enough or flatpack is better. So in the end if I were Canonical leader I would say fuck them and now put my few developers on implementing a different store for the other distributions.
- xet7 6y ago
  Why would Canonical leader use such words like "fuck them" ? That's just a absurd conspiracy theory. For example Wekan Snap is used in very many different distros: https://snapcraft.io/wekan https://snapcraft.io/wekan
vetinari 6y ago
> Compared to Flatpak, Flatpak uses much more disk space. Flatpak has content-based deduplication via ostree. Snaps are squashfs images. They both have a concepts of shared common parts, runtimes. They both take about the same space on disk. However ostree has a hardlink farm for it's content store, so if you do not know how it works and how to measure it, you might have an impression that it takes more space. It does not. IN addition, if you have multiple applications, anything they have in common at file-level granularity will get deduplicated.

by xet7 6y ago

simion314 6y ago

Sorry, what I meant is that people that don't run Ubuntu don't seem interested in having snap by default in their distribution , at least I only see the voices shouting that deb is enough or flatpack is better. So in the end if I were Canonical leader I would say fuck them and now put my few developers on implementing a different store for the other distributions.

xet7 6y ago
Why would Canonical leader use such words like "fuck them" ? That's just a absurd conspiracy theory. For example Wekan Snap is used in very many different distros: https://snapcraft.io/wekan https://snapcraft.io/wekan

vetinari 6y ago

> Compared to Flatpak, Flatpak uses much more disk space. Flatpak has content-based deduplication via ostree. Snaps are squashfs images. They both have a concepts of shared common parts, runtimes. They both take about the same space on disk. However ostree has a hardlink farm for it's content store, so if you do not know how it works and how to measure it, you might have an impression that it takes more space. It does not. IN addition, if you have multiple applications, anything they have in common at file-level granularity will get deduplicated.