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I remember when Nokia decided to kill meego, or when Canonical stopped pushing DEs (and firing a bunch of people with it). The exactly same reaction happened ba

I remember when Nokia decided to kill meego, or when Canonical stopped pushing DEs (and firing a bunch of people with it). The exactly same reaction happened back then: people tried to save things, push public projects more in the open, move ideas to other companies or create a community repo to sell the idea of an independent project. None of them really lasted or got traction. It's sad, but the reality is that the fate of a project with only one major stakeholder is tied to that stakeholder's fate. I'm pretty sure they will all get other jobs, but we have to face the fact that the project itself will probably die.

slim 6y ago
meego had two stakeholders (intel), but you make me wonder if Kaios could use servo
- fabrice_d 6y ago
  I would love to, but it's far from being mature enough.
padraic7a 6y ago
Ubuntu Touch is still going, fairly strong too, though I think it's aim is to fill a niche rather than challenge Android and iOS anytime soon. https://ubports.com/ https://ubports.com/
- WoodenChair 6y ago
  > Ubuntu Touch is still going, fairly strong too, though I think it's aim is to fill a niche rather than challenge Android and iOS anytime soon. Do you consider getting no major OEM adoption in 5 years “fairly strong?” Mobile OSes depend on network effects of both users and developers. It’s no surprise it’s a duopoly.
  - blihp 6y ago
    In the world of Linux, 'no major OEM adoption' is the norm for most distros especially with no substantial corporate backing. UBports is definitely in the top 5, if not top 3, of (free/libre) mobile Linux distros. So yes, for people who are into the non-corporate Linux distros, UBports is going strong. But all that really means is actively maintained and has a reasonable (by open source standards) number of users.
  - pabs3 6y ago
    Debian is still going strong after > 20 years with no major OEM adoption (except in the form of derivatives like Ubuntu), so I'm not sure how relevant OEM adoption is to FLOSS distributions. Personally I think OEMs should not ship a default OS and should require a choice at the point of sale.
  - Abishek_Muthian 6y ago
    >Do you consider getting no major OEM adoption in 5 years “fairly strong?” 'No major OEM adoption' is partly the USP for manufacturers like Pine Phone[1], if they are able to build sustainable business then they would be fine(From the looks of it, it seem they know what they are doing). [1]https://store.pine64.org/ https://store.pine64.org/
    - efreak 6y ago
      Pine is not a major OEM. Even if they build a sustainable business, that won't make them one.
      - Abishek_Muthian 6y ago
        I said 'Not being a major OEM' is one of their USP.

slim 6y ago

meego had two stakeholders (intel), but you make me wonder if Kaios could use servo

fabrice_d 6y ago
I would love to, but it's far from being mature enough.

padraic7a 6y ago

Ubuntu Touch is still going, fairly strong too, though I think it's aim is to fill a niche rather than challenge Android and iOS anytime soon. https://ubports.com/ https://ubports.com/

WoodenChair 6y ago
> Ubuntu Touch is still going, fairly strong too, though I think it's aim is to fill a niche rather than challenge Android and iOS anytime soon. Do you consider getting no major OEM adoption in 5 years “fairly strong?” Mobile OSes depend on network effects of both users and developers. It’s no surprise it’s a duopoly.
- blihp 6y ago
  In the world of Linux, 'no major OEM adoption' is the norm for most distros especially with no substantial corporate backing. UBports is definitely in the top 5, if not top 3, of (free/libre) mobile Linux distros. So yes, for people who are into the non-corporate Linux distros, UBports is going strong. But all that really means is actively maintained and has a reasonable (by open source standards) number of users.
- pabs3 6y ago
  Debian is still going strong after > 20 years with no major OEM adoption (except in the form of derivatives like Ubuntu), so I'm not sure how relevant OEM adoption is to FLOSS distributions. Personally I think OEMs should not ship a default OS and should require a choice at the point of sale.
- Abishek_Muthian 6y ago
  >Do you consider getting no major OEM adoption in 5 years “fairly strong?” 'No major OEM adoption' is partly the USP for manufacturers like Pine Phone[1], if they are able to build sustainable business then they would be fine(From the looks of it, it seem they know what they are doing). [1]https://store.pine64.org/ https://store.pine64.org/
  - efreak 6y ago
    Pine is not a major OEM. Even if they build a sustainable business, that won't make them one.
    - Abishek_Muthian 6y ago
      I said 'Not being a major OEM' is one of their USP.