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> Folks seem to miss the fact that google chrome was a minor competitor initially it IE - and their focus on things like ... security ... helped them become abs

> Folks seem to miss the fact that google chrome was a minor competitor initially it IE - and their focus on things like ... security ... helped them become absolutely dominant. Security is a very small factor, if a factor at all, for Chrome to have become dominant. The main reason is because they keep/kept pushing everyone to install Chrome when you visited https://google.com https://google.com (by showing you a small popup window).

hu3 6y ago
Do you have evidence? Because I remember trying Chrome and immediately switching because it was miles ahead. So did my friends. It was faster and had slicker UI. Nobody keeps using a shittier browser no matter how many times you shove it on their faces. Btw Chrome is still faster than Firefox for stuff that matters and often by a considerable amount: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=chrome83-firefox77-linux&num=1 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=chrome83...
- coronadisaster 6y ago
  I don't really have any evidence (hopefully Google will be required to release that evidence in a monopoly probe) besides what I recall from advertising but security certainly doesn't seem to be the primary factor. Speed certainly brought in a lot of users, but by the time Firefox caught up, I am not sure what the market share was (at first there was a huge difference in performance, I don't think that today's difference in performance is comparable).
  - coronadisaster 6y ago
    By the way, where is the evidence for your claims that a small change in performance equals large market share?
donor20 6y ago
Microsoft had IE as the DEFAULT - and did plenty of pushing itself. Across almost all dimensions chrome was better when it came out - people seem to forget how horrible browsers were historically (and how easily abused). I know ages ago of an entity that just got tired of dealing with the problems folks caused not using chrome (whether it was chrome's website blacklists or whatever - folks using chrome were less likely to get ransomeware - period). Literally - EVERY install of crap seemed to be coming from IE users, except one case I know of where someone had a chrome extension change hands and go rouge.

hu3 6y ago

Do you have evidence? Because I remember trying Chrome and immediately switching because it was miles ahead. So did my friends. It was faster and had slicker UI. Nobody keeps using a shittier browser no matter how many times you shove it on their faces. Btw Chrome is still faster than Firefox for stuff that matters and often by a considerable amount: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=chrome83-firefox77-linux&num=1 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=chrome83...

coronadisaster 6y ago
I don't really have any evidence (hopefully Google will be required to release that evidence in a monopoly probe) besides what I recall from advertising but security certainly doesn't seem to be the primary factor. Speed certainly brought in a lot of users, but by the time Firefox caught up, I am not sure what the market share was (at first there was a huge difference in performance, I don't think that today's difference in performance is comparable).
- coronadisaster 6y ago
  By the way, where is the evidence for your claims that a small change in performance equals large market share?

donor20 6y ago

Microsoft had IE as the DEFAULT - and did plenty of pushing itself. Across almost all dimensions chrome was better when it came out - people seem to forget how horrible browsers were historically (and how easily abused). I know ages ago of an entity that just got tired of dealing with the problems folks caused not using chrome (whether it was chrome's website blacklists or whatever - folks using chrome were less likely to get ransomeware - period). Literally - EVERY install of crap seemed to be coming from IE users, except one case I know of where someone had a chrome extension change hands and go rouge.