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Which is a forked descendant of WebKit, so GP is right or wrong depending on how you classify a fork.

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The_Colonel 6y ago
By that logic we can call both KHTML \s In reality Blink diverged significantly from WebKit and it doesn't make any sense to call Blink WebKit.
- esrauch 6y ago
  Even if Blink and Webkit are separate (and they are still clearly closer than Gecko), we're getting to a Blink monoculture except for the iOS holdout (which is still only ~5% of all traffic, but generally high value and you're prevented from telling them to use another browser). It seems like if things keep going this way, Safari also would inevitably end up rebasing Safari onto Blink too (with their strategic changes).
  - The_Colonel 6y ago
    > It seems like if things keep going this way, Safari also would inevitably end up rebasing Safari onto Blink too (with their strategic changes). I'm not sure about that. WebKit is lagging slightly behind Blink (and Gecko to lesser degree), but I don't think it bothers Apple. Budget to develop WebKit is for Apple hardly a problem as well. Having independent browser engine gives them quite a lot of strategic power given their exclusive market share. Look no further than how they managed to single-handedly kill PWAs few months ago since it does not fit into their strategic goals (all apps must go through app store).
    - pjmlp 6y ago
      They did not managed to kill anything, there are plenty of markets where iOS is not a presence we care about and keep doing mobile Web applications, business as usual.
      - The_Colonel 6y ago
        Ok, maybe I should have said "relegated to niche applications" instead.
        pjmlp 6y ago
        iOS is only relevant in 30% of the world, if we are talking about niches here.
    - esrauch 6y ago
      I think it depends if a lot of pages start breaking. Right now it's not happening at scale, but I don't see them having any reason not to refork Blink if more "only tested on Chrome" sites start breaking on Safari. I'd expect them to maintain all strategic decisions if they did refork, including disabling PWA features; there's nothing that says they have to enable PWAs just because they fork from Blink.
  - hinkley 6y ago
    Where are you getting 5% of traffic as mobile Safari? Because I was scanning around to get a lay of the browser engine landscape and there seems to be tons of Safari traffic out there.
    - esrauch 6y ago
      I got that stat from caniuse.com. Obviously it will differ depending on your site

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By that logic we can call both KHTML \s In reality Blink diverged significantly from WebKit and it doesn't make any sense to call Blink WebKit.

esrauch 6y ago
Even if Blink and Webkit are separate (and they are still clearly closer than Gecko), we're getting to a Blink monoculture except for the iOS holdout (which is still only ~5% of all traffic, but generally high value and you're prevented from telling them to use another browser). It seems like if things keep going this way, Safari also would inevitably end up rebasing Safari onto Blink too (with their strategic changes).
- The_Colonel 6y ago
  > It seems like if things keep going this way, Safari also would inevitably end up rebasing Safari onto Blink too (with their strategic changes). I'm not sure about that. WebKit is lagging slightly behind Blink (and Gecko to lesser degree), but I don't think it bothers Apple. Budget to develop WebKit is for Apple hardly a problem as well. Having independent browser engine gives them quite a lot of strategic power given their exclusive market share. Look no further than how they managed to single-handedly kill PWAs few months ago since it does not fit into their strategic goals (all apps must go through app store).
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    They did not managed to kill anything, there are plenty of markets where iOS is not a presence we care about and keep doing mobile Web applications, business as usual.
    - The_Colonel 6y ago
      Ok, maybe I should have said "relegated to niche applications" instead.
      - pjmlp 6y ago
        iOS is only relevant in 30% of the world, if we are talking about niches here.
  - esrauch 6y ago
    I think it depends if a lot of pages start breaking. Right now it's not happening at scale, but I don't see them having any reason not to refork Blink if more "only tested on Chrome" sites start breaking on Safari. I'd expect them to maintain all strategic decisions if they did refork, including disabling PWA features; there's nothing that says they have to enable PWAs just because they fork from Blink.
- hinkley 6y ago
  Where are you getting 5% of traffic as mobile Safari? Because I was scanning around to get a lay of the browser engine landscape and there seems to be tons of Safari traffic out there.
  - esrauch 6y ago
    I got that stat from caniuse.com. Obviously it will differ depending on your site