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Yale is 20-27% Jewish [1,2], while the US is just 1.7-2.6% [3]. Few other groups would have the gall to call 10x over-representation as being discriminated agai

Yale is 20-27% Jewish [1,2], while the US is just 1.7-2.6% [3]. Few other groups would have the gall to call 10x over-representation as being discriminated against. [1] https://www.hillel.org/college-guide/list/record/yale-university https://www.hillel.org/college-guide/list/record/yale-univer... [2] https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/The-most-heavily-Jewish-US-college-and-other-facts-about-Jews-at-American-colleges-437701 https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/The-most-heavily-Jewish-US-co... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews

MichaelRazum 6y ago
That was exactly the same argument the soviet union had. So we have too much jews there, lets limit it. Its not discriminating, since there are already so much jews or asians in the universities (20%+). On the individual level a person get reject based on its race, that is sad.
- rbecker 6y ago
  I'm sorry, are you saying that Jewish students are currently, in the US, in Yale, being discriminated against in college applications? Despite the current and previous Yale presidents both being Jewish [1,2]? And that without that discrimination, they would be... what? 40% of all Yale students? More? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Salovey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Salovey [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Levin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Levin
  - j7ake 6y ago
    No OP was saying Asian students can be discriminated against even if percentage of Asians being accepted were higher than national demographic.
icelancer 6y ago
Just because Jews and Asians have high enrollment at a university doesn't mean the numbers are being suppressed. It's pretty trivial to show wrt quantitative methods that it is clearly true that it's happening... hence the OP.
igravious 6y ago
The eight original Ivy League universities in order of undergrad % === Columbia: ~1,500 of 6,298 undergrads (23%) ; ~3,500 of 22,861 graduates (15%) Cornell: ~3,000 of 15,043 undergrads (19%) ; ~500 of 8,984 graduates (6%) Pennsylvania: ~1,750 of 10,019 undergrads (17%) ; ~1,800 of 12,413 graduates (14%) Brown: ~1,000 of 7,160 undergrads (13%) ; ~200 of 3,173 graduates (6%) Yale: ~800 of 6,092 undergrads (13%) ; ~1,500 of 7517 graduates (20%) Harvard: ~780 of 6755 undergrads (11%) ; ~2,500 of 4,698 graduates (53%) Dartmouth: ~420 of 4459 undergrads (9%) ; ~100 of 2,149 graduates (5%) Princeton: ~450 of 5,428 undergrads (8%) ; ~250 of 2,946 graduates (8%) === The eight original Ivy League universities in order of graduate % === Harvard: ~780 of 6755 undergrads (11%) ; ~2,500 of 4,698 graduates (53%) Yale: ~800 of 6,092 undergrads (13%) ; ~1,500 of 7517 graduates (20%) Columbia: ~1,500 of 6,298 undergrads (23%) ; ~3,500 of 22,861 graduates (15%) Pennsylvania: ~1,750 of 10,019 undergrads (17%) ; ~1,800 of 12,413 graduates (14%) Princeton: ~450 of 5,428 undergrads (8%) ; ~250 of 2,946 graduates (8%) Cornell: ~3,000 of 15,043 undergrads (19%) ; ~500 of 8,984 graduates (6%) Brown: ~1,000 of 7,160 undergrads (13%) ; ~200 of 3,173 graduates (6%) Dartmouth: ~420 of 4459 undergrads (9%) ; ~100 of 2,149 graduates (5%) === https://www.hillel.org/college-guide/search#radius=null&select=top60 https://www.hillel.org/college-guide/search#radius=null&sele... https://www.mastersportal.com/articles/1958/what-are-ivy-league-universities-and-why-should-i-care.html https://www.mastersportal.com/articles/1958/what-are-ivy-lea...

MichaelRazum 6y ago

That was exactly the same argument the soviet union had. So we have too much jews there, lets limit it. Its not discriminating, since there are already so much jews or asians in the universities (20%+). On the individual level a person get reject based on its race, that is sad.

rbecker 6y ago
I'm sorry, are you saying that Jewish students are currently, in the US, in Yale, being discriminated against in college applications? Despite the current and previous Yale presidents both being Jewish [1,2]? And that without that discrimination, they would be... what? 40% of all Yale students? More? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Salovey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Salovey [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Levin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Levin
- j7ake 6y ago
  No OP was saying Asian students can be discriminated against even if percentage of Asians being accepted were higher than national demographic.

icelancer 6y ago

Just because Jews and Asians have high enrollment at a university doesn't mean the numbers are being suppressed. It's pretty trivial to show wrt quantitative methods that it is clearly true that it's happening... hence the OP.

igravious 6y ago

The eight original Ivy League universities in order of undergrad % === Columbia: ~1,500 of 6,298 undergrads (23%) ; ~3,500 of 22,861 graduates (15%) Cornell: ~3,000 of 15,043 undergrads (19%) ; ~500 of 8,984 graduates (6%) Pennsylvania: ~1,750 of 10,019 undergrads (17%) ; ~1,800 of 12,413 graduates (14%) Brown: ~1,000 of 7,160 undergrads (13%) ; ~200 of 3,173 graduates (6%) Yale: ~800 of 6,092 undergrads (13%) ; ~1,500 of 7517 graduates (20%) Harvard: ~780 of 6755 undergrads (11%) ; ~2,500 of 4,698 graduates (53%) Dartmouth: ~420 of 4459 undergrads (9%) ; ~100 of 2,149 graduates (5%) Princeton: ~450 of 5,428 undergrads (8%) ; ~250 of 2,946 graduates (8%) === The eight original Ivy League universities in order of graduate % === Harvard: ~780 of 6755 undergrads (11%) ; ~2,500 of 4,698 graduates (53%) Yale: ~800 of 6,092 undergrads (13%) ; ~1,500 of 7517 graduates (20%) Columbia: ~1,500 of 6,298 undergrads (23%) ; ~3,500 of 22,861 graduates (15%) Pennsylvania: ~1,750 of 10,019 undergrads (17%) ; ~1,800 of 12,413 graduates (14%) Princeton: ~450 of 5,428 undergrads (8%) ; ~250 of 2,946 graduates (8%) Cornell: ~3,000 of 15,043 undergrads (19%) ; ~500 of 8,984 graduates (6%) Brown: ~1,000 of 7,160 undergrads (13%) ; ~200 of 3,173 graduates (6%) Dartmouth: ~420 of 4459 undergrads (9%) ; ~100 of 2,149 graduates (5%) === https://www.hillel.org/college-guide/search#radius=null&select=top60 https://www.hillel.org/college-guide/search#radius=null&sele... https://www.mastersportal.com/articles/1958/what-are-ivy-league-universities-and-why-should-i-care.html https://www.mastersportal.com/articles/1958/what-are-ivy-lea...