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How is that relevant? I don't care about the relative gap in whatever other country. I don't live in the US (although I wish I did). In Germany, I see average c

How is that relevant? I don't care about the relative gap in whatever other country. I don't live in the US (although I wish I did). In Germany, I see average compensation for a SWE 65k€ whereas management at the same company can have upwards of 300k€. Especially bad if you work a tech job at a non-tech company. There is definitely a culture of rewarding management with money and employees with "stability" which means accepting lower pay in return for not being fired.

coldtea 6y ago
>In Germany, I see average compensation for a SWE 65k€ whereas management at the same company can have upwards of 300k€. I see that as a benefit. Less inequality, less golden parachutes, the average person making a better living with better public services and benefits... I could not care less for special salaries that only apply to a small percentage, when https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/23/most-americans-dont-have-the-savings-to-cover-a-1000-emergency.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/23/most-americans-dont-have-the...
jashmatthews 6y ago
The average US developer salary is about $110k so you're probably better off making €65k so they're not really much better off. If you have a family it's almost certainly a worse deal in the USA. There are also places in Germany offering 2-3x that €65k in total comp for comparable roles as you see for the high salaries in the USA. Amazon Berlin, Google Munich etc.
- boruto 6y ago
  > Amazon Berlin ... 2-3x of 65k Lol no :) more like 80k base and some stock for sde-2
  - jashmatthews 6y ago
    Plenty of early stage companies openly advertise €75-80k base in Berlin on AngelList so that's a pretty low offer for somewhere like Amazon! My total comp at Airbnb Berlin was approx double that €65k quoted. An ex-colleague makes more than that at Amazon Berlin but at a higher level.

coldtea 6y ago

>In Germany, I see average compensation for a SWE 65k€ whereas management at the same company can have upwards of 300k€. I see that as a benefit. Less inequality, less golden parachutes, the average person making a better living with better public services and benefits... I could not care less for special salaries that only apply to a small percentage, when https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/23/most-americans-dont-have-the-savings-to-cover-a-1000-emergency.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/23/most-americans-dont-have-the...

jashmatthews 6y ago

The average US developer salary is about $110k so you're probably better off making €65k so they're not really much better off. If you have a family it's almost certainly a worse deal in the USA. There are also places in Germany offering 2-3x that €65k in total comp for comparable roles as you see for the high salaries in the USA. Amazon Berlin, Google Munich etc.

boruto 6y ago
> Amazon Berlin ... 2-3x of 65k Lol no :) more like 80k base and some stock for sde-2
- jashmatthews 6y ago
  Plenty of early stage companies openly advertise €75-80k base in Berlin on AngelList so that's a pretty low offer for somewhere like Amazon! My total comp at Airbnb Berlin was approx double that €65k quoted. An ex-colleague makes more than that at Amazon Berlin but at a higher level.