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Under Apple's clarified guidelines, if a University put out a remote learning app to help students deal with the pandemic better than a browser solution, Apple

by cma 6y ago

Under Apple's clarified guidelines, if a University put out a remote learning app to help students deal with the pandemic better than a browser solution, Apple would be entitled to 30% of each user's tuition. Once they have a few slow quarters and pull the lever on taking a cut of app mediated real-world services, we may see 10-30% of each Taxi ride going to Apple.

Razengan 6y ago
> Under Apple's clarified guidelines, if a University put out a remote learning app to help students deal with the pandemic better than a browser solution, Apple would be entitled to 30% of each user's tuition. I think they have mechanisms for distributing apps within an organization.
- reallydontask 6y ago
  Would you care to clarify? Do you mean that universities can distribute iOS apps to iOS devices without using the App Store?
  - weehoo 6y ago
    Yeah that’s how companies like grocery stores that use iOS based devices for inventory management load their apps.
    - reallydontask 6y ago
      There is the Apple Developer Enterprise Program[0] but it suggests it's only for employees. >Use the program only to create proprietary, in-house apps for internal use, and to distribute these apps privately and securely to employees within the organization. Not sure if there is another programme that would work for universities [0]https://developer.apple.com/programs/enterprise/ https://developer.apple.com/programs/enterprise/
- youngtaff 6y ago
  That's within an organisation though via enterprise distribution, or managed devices University students normally bring their own devices so don't fit into that model
- cma 6y ago
  Employee only: https://developer.apple.com/business/custom-apps/ https://developer.apple.com/business/custom-apps/
mehrdada 6y ago
Apple only extracts that revenue from apps if you want to directly take payment through the app. Both Netflix and Spotify work on iOS. They just are not collecting payments or doing new signups there. So in your analogy the student is presumably registered already with the school and Apple doesn’t take a cut at all, even today.
- wayneftw 6y ago
  > Apple only extracts that revenue from apps if you want to directly take payment through the app. Even if you take payment through your app that you built with your own payment processor. Why is Apple standing between me and my school again? They made a profit off of the hardware that I purchased from them and now they’re just standing there stopping me from paying for what I want on the device that I bought.
- cma 6y ago
  That specific carve out is limited to consume-only media apps and wouldn't apply to an interactive remote learning app with more than just a library of prerecorded lectures. HEY acquired customers outside of the app but still wasn't allowed.

by cma 6y ago

Razengan 6y ago

> Under Apple's clarified guidelines, if a University put out a remote learning app to help students deal with the pandemic better than a browser solution, Apple would be entitled to 30% of each user's tuition. I think they have mechanisms for distributing apps within an organization.

reallydontask 6y ago
Would you care to clarify? Do you mean that universities can distribute iOS apps to iOS devices without using the App Store?
- weehoo 6y ago
  Yeah that’s how companies like grocery stores that use iOS based devices for inventory management load their apps.
  - reallydontask 6y ago
    There is the Apple Developer Enterprise Program[0] but it suggests it's only for employees. >Use the program only to create proprietary, in-house apps for internal use, and to distribute these apps privately and securely to employees within the organization. Not sure if there is another programme that would work for universities [0]https://developer.apple.com/programs/enterprise/ https://developer.apple.com/programs/enterprise/
youngtaff 6y ago
That's within an organisation though via enterprise distribution, or managed devices University students normally bring their own devices so don't fit into that model
cma 6y ago
Employee only: https://developer.apple.com/business/custom-apps/ https://developer.apple.com/business/custom-apps/

mehrdada 6y ago

Apple only extracts that revenue from apps if you want to directly take payment through the app. Both Netflix and Spotify work on iOS. They just are not collecting payments or doing new signups there. So in your analogy the student is presumably registered already with the school and Apple doesn’t take a cut at all, even today.

wayneftw 6y ago
> Apple only extracts that revenue from apps if you want to directly take payment through the app. Even if you take payment through your app that you built with your own payment processor. Why is Apple standing between me and my school again? They made a profit off of the hardware that I purchased from them and now they’re just standing there stopping me from paying for what I want on the device that I bought.
cma 6y ago
That specific carve out is limited to consume-only media apps and wouldn't apply to an interactive remote learning app with more than just a library of prerecorded lectures. HEY acquired customers outside of the app but still wasn't allowed.