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I'm tired of this kind of bullshit. I can't buy books on the kindle app, I can't play Apple music on my google mini, I can't install the PAX app for my vape on

I'm tired of this kind of bullshit. I can't buy books on the kindle app, I can't play Apple music on my google mini, I can't install the PAX app for my vape on iOS, and now that. Yet there isn't enough abuse from Apple to make us switch to another platform. Without regulation this situation will never be fixed.

sealthedeal 6y ago
regulation is not the answer. The market aka the consumer will solve this on its own.
- ccktlmazeltov 6y ago
  So you believe in anarchy? You don't believe in any regulation? It sounds a bit naive.
  - missedthecue 6y ago
    Referring to this situation.
  - sealthedeal 6y ago
    I believe in as little government regulation as we need to keep this country from imploding, but just enough to make us the #1 country in the world (w/e that means)
    - ccktlmazeltov 6y ago
      you're at the bottom of the list currently my dude
- sircastor 6y ago
  I like to think that this would be resolved by the market, but if that were the case, why hasn’t It happened. Apple has been acting this way for 12 years. They haven’t changed their tune. The singular real market alternative is android, which still suffers from fragmentation issues. Microsoft, one of the most powerful companies in the world, couldn’t make their option work. Amazon, one of the most powerful companies in the world couldn’t get people onboard with their non-google version of Android. BlackBerry, the most powerful company in the space before Apple couldn’t keep their devices competitive. Palm, the leader before BlackBerry couldn’t make their OS stick.
  - AndrewUnmuted 6y ago
    IMO, this is all quite true and it signals an in-built ceiling in the mobile phone market, which I believe we're closer to reaching than people realize. Perhaps the market's innovation that solves this walled garden problem will be towards a very different or very new kind of mobile communications product altogether, rather than a mere iteration on the now rather tired smartphone theme.
  - sealthedeal 6y ago
    If any of those products were truly better we would be using them today. I’m not saying apples 30% take isn’t BS, what I am saying is that if enough of us tell Apple to go F themselves, I.e. what FN is doing, they will be forced to change without the government stepping into our lives. It’s basic free-market economics...
- weixiyen 6y ago
  regulation is what allows consumers the opportunity to make decisions for themselves. otherwise, we'd all still be using internet explorer
  - sealthedeal 6y ago
    That is so perverted on so many levels. Tech is the last real free-market, we need to keep regulation away as much as we can. We are the last bastion of Adam Smiths economy...
TechBro8615 6y ago
I think they fixed the PAX issue btw. :) might depend on country. If you can’t get that to work, I was able to side load it but it was a pain in the ass. You need to get an IPA (which you can only get by decrypting the app on a jailbroken device), then you need to bundle it in a shim Xcode app that you sign with a 24 hour certificate and deploy to your device in developer mode.

sealthedeal 6y ago

regulation is not the answer. The market aka the consumer will solve this on its own.

ccktlmazeltov 6y ago
So you believe in anarchy? You don't believe in any regulation? It sounds a bit naive.
- missedthecue 6y ago
  Referring to this situation.
- sealthedeal 6y ago
  I believe in as little government regulation as we need to keep this country from imploding, but just enough to make us the #1 country in the world (w/e that means)
  - ccktlmazeltov 6y ago
    you're at the bottom of the list currently my dude
sircastor 6y ago
I like to think that this would be resolved by the market, but if that were the case, why hasn’t It happened. Apple has been acting this way for 12 years. They haven’t changed their tune. The singular real market alternative is android, which still suffers from fragmentation issues. Microsoft, one of the most powerful companies in the world, couldn’t make their option work. Amazon, one of the most powerful companies in the world couldn’t get people onboard with their non-google version of Android. BlackBerry, the most powerful company in the space before Apple couldn’t keep their devices competitive. Palm, the leader before BlackBerry couldn’t make their OS stick.
- AndrewUnmuted 6y ago
  IMO, this is all quite true and it signals an in-built ceiling in the mobile phone market, which I believe we're closer to reaching than people realize. Perhaps the market's innovation that solves this walled garden problem will be towards a very different or very new kind of mobile communications product altogether, rather than a mere iteration on the now rather tired smartphone theme.
- sealthedeal 6y ago
  If any of those products were truly better we would be using them today. I’m not saying apples 30% take isn’t BS, what I am saying is that if enough of us tell Apple to go F themselves, I.e. what FN is doing, they will be forced to change without the government stepping into our lives. It’s basic free-market economics...
weixiyen 6y ago
regulation is what allows consumers the opportunity to make decisions for themselves. otherwise, we'd all still be using internet explorer
- sealthedeal 6y ago
  That is so perverted on so many levels. Tech is the last real free-market, we need to keep regulation away as much as we can. We are the last bastion of Adam Smiths economy...

TechBro8615 6y ago

I think they fixed the PAX issue btw. :) might depend on country. If you can’t get that to work, I was able to side load it but it was a pain in the ass. You need to get an IPA (which you can only get by decrypting the app on a jailbroken device), then you need to bundle it in a shim Xcode app that you sign with a 24 hour certificate and deploy to your device in developer mode.