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Epic did their homework on the lawsuit, they make it very clear that Apple and Google are each separate monopolies. Because they have exclusive monopolies over

Epic did their homework on the lawsuit, they make it very clear that Apple and Google are each separate monopolies. Because they have exclusive monopolies over app stores on devices that a large portion of people have. But the Play Store and App Store are not competitors: They control different markets. Furthermore, Epic helped highlight a very important point about Android and iOS: They're not actually competitors. For an OEM building a phone, Android is the only option, it has a complete monopoly on mobile OSes with respect to the market of OEMs who might choose it.

pjmlp 6y ago
The supermarket on the corner also has a monopoly on what gets on their shelves, and which persons are allowed to get in to buy their stuff.
- playeren 6y ago
  I don't think your analogy is making any strong points, because there aren't just two supermarkets in the whole world. I can choose from 4 different supermarkets within walking distance, and an additional 3 if you count online supermarkets that deliver to my area. That is not the case when it comes to choosing a mobile OS/app store.
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    I bet each one of them has exclusive products not available on the other ones. Having more than one to choose from is still an option.
    - playeren 6y ago
      Yes, and I know several of my friends and family who shop in different supermarkets for that reason. How many do you know that have both an iPhone and an Android phone?
      - pjmlp 6y ago
        Plenty, I am one of them, I am Windows/Android user, and get Apple gear from work. And I also know a few that still use and buy feature phones with their OEM only apps, with "by invitation only SDKs". Which makes the choice bigger than two actually, when one looks at the actual market distribution, something that a judge will care about.
        olsonjeffery 6y ago
        are anecdotes data, now? does fortnite run on feature phones? how many cases have you tried in federal court?
        pjmlp 6y ago
        As many as the wannabe lawyers in HN driving their Apple hate agenda without any legal understanding.

pjmlp 6y ago

The supermarket on the corner also has a monopoly on what gets on their shelves, and which persons are allowed to get in to buy their stuff.

playeren 6y ago
I don't think your analogy is making any strong points, because there aren't just two supermarkets in the whole world. I can choose from 4 different supermarkets within walking distance, and an additional 3 if you count online supermarkets that deliver to my area. That is not the case when it comes to choosing a mobile OS/app store.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  I bet each one of them has exclusive products not available on the other ones. Having more than one to choose from is still an option.
  - playeren 6y ago
    Yes, and I know several of my friends and family who shop in different supermarkets for that reason. How many do you know that have both an iPhone and an Android phone?
    - pjmlp 6y ago
      Plenty, I am one of them, I am Windows/Android user, and get Apple gear from work. And I also know a few that still use and buy feature phones with their OEM only apps, with "by invitation only SDKs". Which makes the choice bigger than two actually, when one looks at the actual market distribution, something that a judge will care about.
      - olsonjeffery 6y ago
        are anecdotes data, now? does fortnite run on feature phones? how many cases have you tried in federal court?
        pjmlp 6y ago
        As many as the wannabe lawyers in HN driving their Apple hate agenda without any legal understanding.