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I have to assume you're not trolling but those are some impressive mental gymnastics my friend. If Apple allowed sideloading then you're experience would be 10

by Sargos 6y ago

I have to assume you're not trolling but those are some impressive mental gymnastics my friend. If Apple allowed sideloading then you're experience would be 100% identical. You would have the freedom to continue using the App Store just like you do today and have a nice curated experience. Contracts would continue to work just like they do today. The thing is, the rest of us would have -more- freedom as we could, optionally and of our own accord, use apps outside of the App Store as well. Nobody is harmed and everyone is happy. Everyone either has the same amount of or more freedom and safety.

rimliu 6y ago
As if "allow sideloading" is just some boolean flag in the iOS source. Enabling it would have seriuos implications for iOS and for Apple (no matter where from a user download some shady app Apple suddenly becomes responsible).
- bishalb 6y ago
  If they wanted to, they could have done it though no? IOS has been out for 13 years now.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  It’s a fuse in the hardware of the device, literally nothing else. You can grab these devices off the black market today if you are so inclined and don’t really bother much for the law.
ernst_klim 6y ago
>if Apple allowed sideloading then you're experience would be 100% identical 1) Apple allows sideloading, you still can use Cydia, they just don't help you with that. 2) No, because read my post carefully: > As for apple, yes it asks for 30% fee, and it builds a walled garden. But they also offer what others don't: 8 years of support. I'm totally agree to have a walled garden (convenient enough for me), if I could use my phone for 8 years instead of 2-3 as in the Android case. > Nobody is harmed and everyone is happy. No. Learn how incentives work.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  Not only does Apple not help you with installing Cydia, they actively prevent you from doing so using technological measures they do not intend for you to bypass.
  - ernst_klim 6y ago
    Why do you think they are obliged to help you with that? They didn't promise any such thing in their user agreement. Though you could easily upload your soft by simply paying $99 for a dev profile.
    - saagarjha 6y ago
      They are obliged to not add software protections that I cannot bypass because it prevents me from installing whatever software I like even if I do exactly what you just mentioned.

by Sargos 6y ago

rimliu 6y ago

As if "allow sideloading" is just some boolean flag in the iOS source. Enabling it would have seriuos implications for iOS and for Apple (no matter where from a user download some shady app Apple suddenly becomes responsible).

bishalb 6y ago
If they wanted to, they could have done it though no? IOS has been out for 13 years now.
saagarjha 6y ago
It’s a fuse in the hardware of the device, literally nothing else. You can grab these devices off the black market today if you are so inclined and don’t really bother much for the law.

ernst_klim 6y ago

>if Apple allowed sideloading then you're experience would be 100% identical 1) Apple allows sideloading, you still can use Cydia, they just don't help you with that. 2) No, because read my post carefully: > As for apple, yes it asks for 30% fee, and it builds a walled garden. But they also offer what others don't: 8 years of support. I'm totally agree to have a walled garden (convenient enough for me), if I could use my phone for 8 years instead of 2-3 as in the Android case. > Nobody is harmed and everyone is happy. No. Learn how incentives work.

saagarjha 6y ago
Not only does Apple not help you with installing Cydia, they actively prevent you from doing so using technological measures they do not intend for you to bypass.
- ernst_klim 6y ago
  Why do you think they are obliged to help you with that? They didn't promise any such thing in their user agreement. Though you could easily upload your soft by simply paying $99 for a dev profile.
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    They are obliged to not add software protections that I cannot bypass because it prevents me from installing whatever software I like even if I do exactly what you just mentioned.