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I'm trying to parse if you're going after OnePlus, because they build pretty solid phones. Now of we we're taking about carriers we'd have a different conversa

I'm trying to parse if you're going after OnePlus, because they build pretty solid phones. Now of we we're taking about carriers we'd have a different conversation but as someone who's seen a lot of the mobile industry OnePlus is pretty decent on the bloatware in my book.

ChuckNorris89 6y ago
Lots of the HN crowd are Apple only users and their last Android experience was a 2012 Samsung so that's their point of reference. Also, HN is also mostly American where carrier bloatware is the norm on Android, something I never saw in Europe.
krono 6y ago
It seems that those days are gone. Their recent Nord phone shipped with the full and uninstallable Facebook services suite (1). In a forum post(2) they claim it was done to improve battery life and performance. Reading about this Fortnite launcher deal makes me doubt the honesty of that claim even more. A few months ago they also started pushing strange and invasive system apps to my OnePlus 6T like "OnePlus Zen Mode", "OnePlus Game Space", their own custom File Manager which - in India - even sent data to a Tencent server for some strange file cleanup functionality that could not be disabled (3)(4)! I love my OnePlus 6T but writing this out made me realise how distrustful and wary I've become of this company that has access to a huge part of my life through my phone. I'm now seriously considering replacing this device way early in its lifecycle. No idea what brand to turn to next though. 1. https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/08/05/oneplus-is-poisoning-its-phones-with-facebook-bloatware/ https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/08/05/oneplus-is-poisonin... 2. https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/allow-user-to-choose-which-stock-apps-they-want-to-install-during-set-up.1174902/#post-21557915 https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/allow-user-to-choose-whic... 3. https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/petition-against-file-manager-cleanup.1026179/ https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/petition-against-file-man... 4. https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/05/07/oneplus-6-6t-users-in-india-wary-of-tencent-involvement-in-file-manager-app/ https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/05/07/oneplus-6-6t-users-... Edit: Added link 4.

ChuckNorris89 6y ago

Lots of the HN crowd are Apple only users and their last Android experience was a 2012 Samsung so that's their point of reference. Also, HN is also mostly American where carrier bloatware is the norm on Android, something I never saw in Europe.

krono 6y ago

It seems that those days are gone. Their recent Nord phone shipped with the full and uninstallable Facebook services suite (1). In a forum post(2) they claim it was done to improve battery life and performance. Reading about this Fortnite launcher deal makes me doubt the honesty of that claim even more. A few months ago they also started pushing strange and invasive system apps to my OnePlus 6T like "OnePlus Zen Mode", "OnePlus Game Space", their own custom File Manager which - in India - even sent data to a Tencent server for some strange file cleanup functionality that could not be disabled (3)(4)! I love my OnePlus 6T but writing this out made me realise how distrustful and wary I've become of this company that has access to a huge part of my life through my phone. I'm now seriously considering replacing this device way early in its lifecycle. No idea what brand to turn to next though. 1. https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/08/05/oneplus-is-poisoning-its-phones-with-facebook-bloatware/ https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/08/05/oneplus-is-poisonin... 2. https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/allow-user-to-choose-which-stock-apps-they-want-to-install-during-set-up.1174902/#post-21557915 https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/allow-user-to-choose-whic... 3. https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/petition-against-file-manager-cleanup.1026179/ https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/petition-against-file-man... 4. https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/05/07/oneplus-6-6t-users-in-india-wary-of-tencent-involvement-in-file-manager-app/ https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/05/07/oneplus-6-6t-users-... Edit: Added link 4.