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Why are these ships allowed to go anywhere near reefs?

grugagag 6y ago
I think this is probably to cut distances and save on fuel and time. The reefs' safety is completely disregarded it seems. But we should know that already, these companies don't care much about the environment, they only do when they have to make large payouts to fix the damages.
- wila 6y ago
  Paying huge sums of damages might make companies more careful and instruct their crews better. Instead of that we seem to be getting the more common "We're sorry" mantra.
mncharity 6y ago
Ships are in the vicinity of Mauritius because "Mauritius and the nearby island of Reunion lie on the shortest straight-line route between the Strait of Malacca, which links the ports of Asia to the Indian Ocean, and the southern tip of Africa." Mauritius seems not to have "put in place a safety zone". These seem at least part of the picture. https://gcaptain.com/heres-why-so-much-world-trade-passes-mauritius/ https://gcaptain.com/heres-why-so-much-world-trade-passes-ma...
darkerside 6y ago
Not to minimize it, but you seem to be only thinking about this one instance of a sunk tanker, and not the thousands and thousands of ships that do this on a regular basis with no problem. These low probability risks, and countless others like them, are part of a tapestry of a probabilistic horror show that supports our everyday way of life.
- ComputerGuru 6y ago
  We are you assuming he/she is thinking in that manner? Some things you cannot put a price tag on. Getting oil cheaply from point a to point b is nice, but if all it takes is one major and uncontained spill to forever kill one of the few remaining large coral reefs...
  - debacle 6y ago
    We all think in that manner, all the time.
    - darkerside 6y ago
      Exactly. I didn't mean it personally. It's human nature. Best we can do is recognize it. Or maybe, ignore it. I guess it depends on what you want in life...
      - deleted 6y ago
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- hnzix 6y ago
  Satellite footage shows that the ship deviated significantly from its shipping lane, and this was observable from the AIS data for several days. The problem is nobody sends alerts from that data, even though there are several websites that scrape it. [0] This isn't just "one of those things" that's probabilistically inevitable, this collision was directly predictable from the AIS data for a week. https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-12.0/centery:25.0/zoom:4 https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-12.0/cent...
BurningFrog 6y ago
"Why the ship came so close to the lagoon is not clear and is being investigated by police." (from the article)
p1necone 6y ago
Profit
ornornor 6y ago
To shorten the route and save a buck probably.

I think this is probably to cut distances and save on fuel and time. The reefs' safety is completely disregarded it seems. But we should know that already, these companies don't care much about the environment, they only do when they have to make large payouts to fix the damages.

wila 6y ago
Paying huge sums of damages might make companies more careful and instruct their crews better. Instead of that we seem to be getting the more common "We're sorry" mantra.

mncharity 6y ago

Ships are in the vicinity of Mauritius because "Mauritius and the nearby island of Reunion lie on the shortest straight-line route between the Strait of Malacca, which links the ports of Asia to the Indian Ocean, and the southern tip of Africa." Mauritius seems not to have "put in place a safety zone". These seem at least part of the picture. https://gcaptain.com/heres-why-so-much-world-trade-passes-mauritius/ https://gcaptain.com/heres-why-so-much-world-trade-passes-ma...

darkerside 6y ago

Not to minimize it, but you seem to be only thinking about this one instance of a sunk tanker, and not the thousands and thousands of ships that do this on a regular basis with no problem. These low probability risks, and countless others like them, are part of a tapestry of a probabilistic horror show that supports our everyday way of life.

ComputerGuru 6y ago
We are you assuming he/she is thinking in that manner? Some things you cannot put a price tag on. Getting oil cheaply from point a to point b is nice, but if all it takes is one major and uncontained spill to forever kill one of the few remaining large coral reefs...
- debacle 6y ago
  We all think in that manner, all the time.
  - darkerside 6y ago
    Exactly. I didn't mean it personally. It's human nature. Best we can do is recognize it. Or maybe, ignore it. I guess it depends on what you want in life...
    - deleted 6y ago
      [deleted]
hnzix 6y ago
Satellite footage shows that the ship deviated significantly from its shipping lane, and this was observable from the AIS data for several days. The problem is nobody sends alerts from that data, even though there are several websites that scrape it. [0] This isn't just "one of those things" that's probabilistically inevitable, this collision was directly predictable from the AIS data for a week. https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-12.0/centery:25.0/zoom:4 https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-12.0/cent...

BurningFrog 6y ago

"Why the ship came so close to the lagoon is not clear and is being investigated by police." (from the article)

p1necone 6y ago

Profit

ornornor 6y ago

To shorten the route and save a buck probably.