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Yeah? you think users love hunting down a particular app store becauase that is the one that has the app you are after???

gjs278 6y ago
if the app wants more downloads, they will try to get into the main store. if the main store won't accept them for whatever reason, then it's either no store or a side store. I'll take the side store.
monkeydreams 6y ago
> Yeah? you think users love hunting down a particular app store becauase that is the one that has the app you are after??? I switch between streaming services based on the content they have. I have Steam, Epic Store and Origin on my PC because of the games and deals each have. Why would I not load a new app store (if I used my phone for anything other than a phone, camera and note-taking device)?
untog 6y ago
If only there was an example of a platform where you downloaded apps from the web and installed them at your own will! Oh, wait. It’s what we all did and do with computers. This isn’t some mystical unknown.
- scarface74 6y ago
  And we see how that worked out. Viruses, malware, ransomware, key loggers, 10 toolbars on your browser.
  - untog 6y ago
    Which is where the (existing, robust) system of app permissions comes in. Something the desktop world never had. (besides, last time I checked my macOS machine is neither virus ridden nor covered in toolbars)
    - scarface74 6y ago
      Because no one bothered to write viruses for it. There were more viruses for Windows than Classic MacOS and it was a complete shit show compared to Windows between 1995 - 2000. It didn’t even have memory protection.
      - untog 6y ago
        I’m talking about the macOS I run on my MacBook today. It is not virus ridden nor covered with unwanted toolbars.
        scarface74 6y ago
        And again it’s because no one bothered to write toolbars and viruses for the Mac. I never got viruses on a Windows PC but are you going to say they don’t exist? You never had to clean up your less tech savvy relatives computer?
        untog 6y ago
        What I’m saying is that the vast, vast majority of desktop users have an entirely satisfactory computing experience today, using operating systems that let you install whatever you want. Yes, if you go back in time you find OSes with hideous security models that made things like keyloggers possible. Mobile OSes today do not have those problems, and have strict permission prompts that gatekeep functionality. Yeah, I’m sure there would be some shitty experiences if people could install whatever they want on their phones, it’s the price of giving everyone that freedom. But if desktop OSes in 2020 are anything to go by, it’s really not that big of an issue.
        scarface74 6y ago
        So the whole ransomware and virus problem is imaginary?
    - spideymans 6y ago
      Your Mac isn’t ridden with that, because you’re a user that knows that you’re doing. I see “regular users whose Macs are riddled with MacKeeper and other garbage all the time
- Wowfunhappy 6y ago
  In 2006-ish—before the iPhone and its App Store—preteen me decided to replace Windows with Xubuntu on his hand-me-down computer. The feature I recall liking most was the integrated software center. When I wanted an app, I just had to search the center, not comb through random websites. It was nice. Of course, I could and did also install programs from random websites, as I saw fit. It never occurred to me that some day, I'd be forced to rely entirely on a built-in store...

gjs278 6y ago

if the app wants more downloads, they will try to get into the main store. if the main store won't accept them for whatever reason, then it's either no store or a side store. I'll take the side store.

monkeydreams 6y ago

> Yeah? you think users love hunting down a particular app store becauase that is the one that has the app you are after??? I switch between streaming services based on the content they have. I have Steam, Epic Store and Origin on my PC because of the games and deals each have. Why would I not load a new app store (if I used my phone for anything other than a phone, camera and note-taking device)?

untog 6y ago

If only there was an example of a platform where you downloaded apps from the web and installed them at your own will! Oh, wait. It’s what we all did and do with computers. This isn’t some mystical unknown.

scarface74 6y ago
And we see how that worked out. Viruses, malware, ransomware, key loggers, 10 toolbars on your browser.
- untog 6y ago
  Which is where the (existing, robust) system of app permissions comes in. Something the desktop world never had. (besides, last time I checked my macOS machine is neither virus ridden nor covered in toolbars)
  - scarface74 6y ago
    Because no one bothered to write viruses for it. There were more viruses for Windows than Classic MacOS and it was a complete shit show compared to Windows between 1995 - 2000. It didn’t even have memory protection.
    - untog 6y ago
      I’m talking about the macOS I run on my MacBook today. It is not virus ridden nor covered with unwanted toolbars.
      - scarface74 6y ago
        And again it’s because no one bothered to write toolbars and viruses for the Mac. I never got viruses on a Windows PC but are you going to say they don’t exist? You never had to clean up your less tech savvy relatives computer?
        untog 6y ago
        What I’m saying is that the vast, vast majority of desktop users have an entirely satisfactory computing experience today, using operating systems that let you install whatever you want. Yes, if you go back in time you find OSes with hideous security models that made things like keyloggers possible. Mobile OSes today do not have those problems, and have strict permission prompts that gatekeep functionality. Yeah, I’m sure there would be some shitty experiences if people could install whatever they want on their phones, it’s the price of giving everyone that freedom. But if desktop OSes in 2020 are anything to go by, it’s really not that big of an issue.
        scarface74 6y ago
        So the whole ransomware and virus problem is imaginary?
  - spideymans 6y ago
    Your Mac isn’t ridden with that, because you’re a user that knows that you’re doing. I see “regular users whose Macs are riddled with MacKeeper and other garbage all the time
Wowfunhappy 6y ago
In 2006-ish—before the iPhone and its App Store—preteen me decided to replace Windows with Xubuntu on his hand-me-down computer. The feature I recall liking most was the integrated software center. When I wanted an app, I just had to search the center, not comb through random websites. It was nice. Of course, I could and did also install programs from random websites, as I saw fit. It never occurred to me that some day, I'd be forced to rely entirely on a built-in store...