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> For a country and a president that are supposedly incompetent to the point of collapse, things are going pretty damn great. Even _assuming_ everything is gre

> For a country and a president that are supposedly incompetent to the point of collapse, things are going pretty damn great. Even _assuming_ everything is great, would it _really_ be his merit? I mean, everything that man did has been counter-productive for your country. He is a bumbling idiot. He really is. What merit does he have? I just can not see it. The fact that "well, we're not all dead yet" is hardly a criteria for success. And no, my bad opinion of him is not because "the media" - my bad opinion stems from reading his book "The art of the deal" about a decade ago (that was highly recommended by friends - they said it's great!) - and in there he came off, to me, as a corrupt scumbag. All his behavior since only reinforced this. It looks to me like the slow motion fall of an empire. And empires fall all the time, think about Great Britain, a bit over a hundred years ago they were the "the empire on which the sun never sets" - wonder if in another century people will look the same at the US.

war1025 6y ago
You didn't ask why you would like him. You asked why I would like him. Obviously we disagree. What's it really matter?
- RealityVoid 6y ago
  Still, you did not say why you did like him. You just said "it's not that bad". Hardly the same thing. Will admit, you said that you feel that the trade balances with China are being addressed, and, well, that's _something_.
  - war1025 6y ago
    And the stock market is doing great. And we haven't gotten into any new wars. And we have significantly scaled back our existing wars in the Middle East. And, whether its to his credit or not, health insurance prices have stopped spiking 10-20% per year. And he's nominated two conservative justices to the Supreme Court. And he moved the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. And he just brokered a peace deal between Israel and the UAE And tensions with North Korea have been de-escalated, even if that effort didn't go very far. And he addressed funding imbalances in the UN And my taxes went way down And he's not a Democrat, so the media is actually critical of him, instead of fawning over how dreamy he is at every turn. Immigration isn't a big issue for me, but I prefer his stance over open borders. So I guess there's a random list that you may also tell me isn't actually a list.
mike503 6y ago
Because the bar has been set so low at this point, "we're not all dead yet" (except for the over 160k people who have died so far from COVID) is actually a talking point I think

war1025 6y ago

You didn't ask why you would like him. You asked why I would like him. Obviously we disagree. What's it really matter?

RealityVoid 6y ago
Still, you did not say why you did like him. You just said "it's not that bad". Hardly the same thing. Will admit, you said that you feel that the trade balances with China are being addressed, and, well, that's _something_.
- war1025 6y ago
  And the stock market is doing great. And we haven't gotten into any new wars. And we have significantly scaled back our existing wars in the Middle East. And, whether its to his credit or not, health insurance prices have stopped spiking 10-20% per year. And he's nominated two conservative justices to the Supreme Court. And he moved the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. And he just brokered a peace deal between Israel and the UAE And tensions with North Korea have been de-escalated, even if that effort didn't go very far. And he addressed funding imbalances in the UN And my taxes went way down And he's not a Democrat, so the media is actually critical of him, instead of fawning over how dreamy he is at every turn. Immigration isn't a big issue for me, but I prefer his stance over open borders. So I guess there's a random list that you may also tell me isn't actually a list.

mike503 6y ago

Because the bar has been set so low at this point, "we're not all dead yet" (except for the over 160k people who have died so far from COVID) is actually a talking point I think