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Opponents of AA would argue that there is not one baseline, though. There are not enough candidates of race X and Y to meet diversity quotas, so the baseline cr

Opponents of AA would argue that there is not one baseline, though. There are not enough candidates of race X and Y to meet diversity quotas, so the baseline criteria is lowered for students of those races. This means that a candidate of race Z has to work harder and achieve higher to be considered above the baseline. There's not great data about college admissions out there that I could find, so I don't know if this is true or not.

slg 6y ago
>There are not enough candidates of race X and Y to meet diversity quotas Do you think that any Black student who could be successful at Yale and applies to the school will get in? Maybe in super niche graduate programs the school has a problem finding qualified diverse candidates, but at an undergraduate level they turn so many people away that I seriously doubt they have a problem finding good applicants.
- dahfizz 6y ago
  > Do you think that any Black student who could be successful at Yale and applies to the school will get in? Is that the baseline? Top tier schools aren't top tier because they let in anyone who might be successful. Their requirements are such that only top tier candidates make it over the baseline. And, due to various institutional problems, Black students are under represented in that top tier of candidates.
  - slg 6y ago
    To quote Yale themselves[1] >We estimate that over three quarters of the students who apply for admission to Yale are qualified to do the work here. The great majority of students who are admitted stand out from the rest because a lot of little things, when added up, tip the scale in their favor. The numbers of people who apply to the school combined with the selectivity of the school all but guarantees that there are top tier candidates of every race who are rejected. [1] - https://admissions.yale.edu/what-yale-looks-for https://admissions.yale.edu/what-yale-looks-for

slg 6y ago

>There are not enough candidates of race X and Y to meet diversity quotas Do you think that any Black student who could be successful at Yale and applies to the school will get in? Maybe in super niche graduate programs the school has a problem finding qualified diverse candidates, but at an undergraduate level they turn so many people away that I seriously doubt they have a problem finding good applicants.

dahfizz 6y ago
> Do you think that any Black student who could be successful at Yale and applies to the school will get in? Is that the baseline? Top tier schools aren't top tier because they let in anyone who might be successful. Their requirements are such that only top tier candidates make it over the baseline. And, due to various institutional problems, Black students are under represented in that top tier of candidates.
- slg 6y ago
  To quote Yale themselves[1] >We estimate that over three quarters of the students who apply for admission to Yale are qualified to do the work here. The great majority of students who are admitted stand out from the rest because a lot of little things, when added up, tip the scale in their favor. The numbers of people who apply to the school combined with the selectivity of the school all but guarantees that there are top tier candidates of every race who are rejected. [1] - https://admissions.yale.edu/what-yale-looks-for https://admissions.yale.edu/what-yale-looks-for