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The question they’re asking is, does it need to be, or is this antiquated? Is there a good reason to pit people against each other? Is it possible to provide a

by thrav 6y ago

The question they’re asking is, does it need to be, or is this antiquated? Is there a good reason to pit people against each other? Is it possible to provide a great education for everyone who wants one and meets some base qualification, etc. I think the answer is pretty clearly that the best education, in many fields, will always require proximity and therefore scarcity. I just wrapped an OMSCS degree, and as much as I loved the program and the education, missing the on-campus experience definitely makes it a different thing. Not because I learned any less of the material. More so because I walked away with very few relationships and very little spontaneous creativity amongst peers. Some of that is on me for doing it while working full time, but it would’ve been hard regardless. Many people consider those community aspects to be the some of the most valuable qualities of the college experience.

jmoss20 6y ago
Credentials vs. education. Credentials are a positional good, education an intrinsic one. We've decided the two should be bundled together, but they don't have to be. Maybe they shouldn't be; that would be a much more interesting conversation to have.
- babesh 6y ago
  For certain fields, it isn’t possible to get the education without going through the credentialing system or impossible to get a job for it.
TouchyJoe 6y ago
Creating employees is not the primary goal of education. The goal is to create thinking individuals. We can't allow the education system to only serve the interests of the business community. It's clear that they limit education to the least amount of people, because an educated citizenry is very difficult to rule. Ignorance is being weaponized in a class war and education for all would take away that weapon. The more people are educated the more likely or numerous the emergence of people like Einstein or newton. The more people are educated the more democratic society will be and the free-er we all will be. If a large part of society does not understand what's going on around the world then they have to take everything for granted that they have been told by tptb.

by thrav 6y ago

jmoss20 6y ago

Credentials vs. education. Credentials are a positional good, education an intrinsic one. We've decided the two should be bundled together, but they don't have to be. Maybe they shouldn't be; that would be a much more interesting conversation to have.

babesh 6y ago
For certain fields, it isn’t possible to get the education without going through the credentialing system or impossible to get a job for it.

TouchyJoe 6y ago

Creating employees is not the primary goal of education. The goal is to create thinking individuals. We can't allow the education system to only serve the interests of the business community. It's clear that they limit education to the least amount of people, because an educated citizenry is very difficult to rule. Ignorance is being weaponized in a class war and education for all would take away that weapon. The more people are educated the more likely or numerous the emergence of people like Einstein or newton. The more people are educated the more democratic society will be and the free-er we all will be. If a large part of society does not understand what's going on around the world then they have to take everything for granted that they have been told by tptb.