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I bought my device. I own it outright. It should be up to me, not Apple, what software I would like to run on my device. It is extremely unethical for a company

I bought my device. I own it outright. It should be up to me, not Apple, what software I would like to run on my device. It is extremely unethical for a company to dictate what software I am allowed to run on hardware that I own. It is even more unethical for that company to then take a portion of my payment away from the developer without allowing another avenue for the transaction to take place. This would not be an issue if Apple allowed users to easily side load apps.

ernst_klim 6y ago
> It should be up to me, not Apple, what software I would like to run on my device. Sorry, you are building a strawman here. 1) You have the full right to do whatever you want with your phone. I don't argue with that, it's the truth. 2) Apple need not to help you to do whatever you want with your phone. For some reason you confuse your right to do whatever you want with your phone with Apple's obligation to help you with that. Do reverse engineering, flash custom OS, jailbreak, it's your right, but Apple has no obligation to help you with that. If it's to hard for you to do whatever you want with their device, buy another vendor's device then.
- growse 6y ago
  > 2) Apple need not to help you to do whatever you want with your phone. > For some reason you confuse your right to do whatever you want with your phone with Apple's obligation to help you with that. At what point along the road from 'not helping' to 'actively hindering' does this become not ok? When a company goes out of their way to prevent you exercising your rights, what do we call that?
  - aw1621107 6y ago
    Honestly curious, since I haven't been following news as closely as I probably should have: has Apple done anything to actively hinder those who wish to jailbreak their devices beyond patching exploits?

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I bought my device. I own it outright. It should be up to me, not Apple, what software I would like to run on my device. It is extremely unethical for a company

by kickopotomus 6y ago

ernst_klim 6y ago
> It should be up to me, not Apple, what software I would like to run on my device. Sorry, you are building a strawman here. 1) You have the full right to do whatever you want with your phone. I don't argue with that, it's the truth. 2) Apple need not to help you to do whatever you want with your phone. For some reason you confuse your right to do whatever you want with your phone with Apple's obligation to help you with that. Do reverse engineering, flash custom OS, jailbreak, it's your right, but Apple has no obligation to help you with that. If it's to hard for you to do whatever you want with their device, buy another vendor's device then.
- growse 6y ago
  > 2) Apple need not to help you to do whatever you want with your phone. > For some reason you confuse your right to do whatever you want with your phone with Apple's obligation to help you with that. At what point along the road from 'not helping' to 'actively hindering' does this become not ok? When a company goes out of their way to prevent you exercising your rights, what do we call that?
  - aw1621107 6y ago
    Honestly curious, since I haven't been following news as closely as I probably should have: has Apple done anything to actively hinder those who wish to jailbreak their devices beyond patching exploits?