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I don't want to change my phone. I want to change my App Store. Why can't I? Because the App Store is a monopoly.

by kqvamxurcagg 6y ago

ntsplnkv2 6y ago
It can easily be argued that the app store is just as much the product as the A13 chip.
- kqvamxurcagg 6y ago
  I would say it's actually quite hard to argue that. Consumers upgrade their phone primarily based on hardware specifications.
  - ntsplnkv2 6y ago
    This simply isn't true, the market is too diverse to make any assumption like you just did. Some do upgrade based on "hardware specs." Go ask your mom what mhz are. Yea, I'll wait. iOS is the large reason people choose iPhones over Android. The phone is simply a portal to iOS. Without the OS the phone is essentially a brick. To argue the hardware is the only product is an absolute falsehood.
    - hug 6y ago
      I agree with you that iOS is the product, but I agree with the GP that the capital-letters App Store has very little to do with it. To re-use your mom as the argument: * Go grab her phone and point at any given app, and ask if it's available on Android too. * Ask her if she knows the differences are between the Play Store and the App Store. * Ask her if she thinks there is any material difference between getting applications onto an Android phone versus an iPhone. She presumably doesn't know anything about these things, makes the assumption that apps are apps, and leaves it at that.
      - ntsplnkv2 6y ago
        The App Store didn't exist before iOS, it was created for it. It is not a separate product. None of these questions get you anywhere. You made the claim that hardware was why people upgraded - which is false because of the diversity of the market and the fact that the hardware is only a portal to what they want. You haven't dealt with the argument - that the App Store is a separate product from an iPhone. It isn't.
- summerlight 6y ago
  Except it isn't. There is no fundamental technical limitation that prohibits Apple from allowing third party app store. It's only because of their arbitrary policy.

I don't want to change my phone. I want to change my App Store. Why can't I? Because the App Store is a monopoly.

ntsplnkv2 6y ago

It can easily be argued that the app store is just as much the product as the A13 chip.

kqvamxurcagg 6y ago
I would say it's actually quite hard to argue that. Consumers upgrade their phone primarily based on hardware specifications.
- ntsplnkv2 6y ago
  This simply isn't true, the market is too diverse to make any assumption like you just did. Some do upgrade based on "hardware specs." Go ask your mom what mhz are. Yea, I'll wait. iOS is the large reason people choose iPhones over Android. The phone is simply a portal to iOS. Without the OS the phone is essentially a brick. To argue the hardware is the only product is an absolute falsehood.
  - hug 6y ago
    I agree with you that iOS is the product, but I agree with the GP that the capital-letters App Store has very little to do with it. To re-use your mom as the argument: * Go grab her phone and point at any given app, and ask if it's available on Android too. * Ask her if she knows the differences are between the Play Store and the App Store. * Ask her if she thinks there is any material difference between getting applications onto an Android phone versus an iPhone. She presumably doesn't know anything about these things, makes the assumption that apps are apps, and leaves it at that.
    - ntsplnkv2 6y ago
      The App Store didn't exist before iOS, it was created for it. It is not a separate product. None of these questions get you anywhere. You made the claim that hardware was why people upgraded - which is false because of the diversity of the market and the fact that the hardware is only a portal to what they want. You haven't dealt with the argument - that the App Store is a separate product from an iPhone. It isn't.
summerlight 6y ago
Except it isn't. There is no fundamental technical limitation that prohibits Apple from allowing third party app store. It's only because of their arbitrary policy.