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There is no way companies are passing that 20-30% to the consumers.

by jvzr 6y ago

heavyset_go 6y ago
Other digital distribution platforms, like Bandcamp, only take 10% to 15%. I'm sure if there was true competition in the app store market, other app stores could be more efficient with the 30% cut that the App Store takes, and pass the savings off in order to compete with rival app stores that take 30%.
Rotten194 6y ago
itch.io allows developers to set the take, down to 0% if they want. Patreon allows users to adjust the take in exchange for less / more features. There's lots of alternative models that aren't a flat 30% fee.
wvenable 6y ago
Why not? Your argument is that companies can just charge their customers 30% more. They can do that right now just by making their prices 30% higher.
jandrese 6y ago
That's exactly what Epic just tried to do and what got them kicked off of the app store.
- jvzr 6y ago
  You're falling in their marketing trap. They are passing it now because it helps their case, but had they a lower percentage to begin with, they'd keep the price as it was. You think Epic is a benevolent corporation? No, they're a money-making machine selling pixel clothes and dances for their hit game. (I'm a gamer and I find Epic revolting.)
  - shezi 6y ago
    Have you read any of the news surrounding the Epic Games Store? Like this: https://www.techradar.com/au/news/epic-games-store-would-drop-exclusives-if-steam-only-took-12-of-dev-revenue https://www.techradar.com/au/news/epic-games-store-would-dro... "Epic’s CEO Tim Sweeney has effectively thrown down the gauntlet to Valve, saying that if Steam matched the Epic Games Store in terms of dropping the cut it takes from developers to 12%, Epic would stop pursuing the policy of securing big-name exclusives." The entire point of the EGS is to get the industry to lower their skimming. And you don't even have to invoke altruism: if Epic continues to take 12% of every transaction and grows the market ten-fold, that's still more than a 30% cut of the market today. It is a sad testament to our time that it is inconceivable that a person just wants to better the situation for all involved. I'm a game developer and the EGS is the best thing that's happened to us as developers AND to us as gamers. And our games aren't even on the EGS.

There is no way companies are passing that 20-30% to the consumers.

by jvzr 6y ago

There is no way companies are passing that 20-30% to the consumers.

Other digital distribution platforms, like Bandcamp, only take 10% to 15%. I'm sure if there was true competition in the app store market, other app stores could be more efficient with the 30% cut that the App Store takes, and pass the savings off in order to compete with rival app stores that take 30%.

Rotten194 6y ago

itch.io allows developers to set the take, down to 0% if they want. Patreon allows users to adjust the take in exchange for less / more features. There's lots of alternative models that aren't a flat 30% fee.

wvenable 6y ago

Why not? Your argument is that companies can just charge their customers 30% more. They can do that right now just by making their prices 30% higher.

jandrese 6y ago

That's exactly what Epic just tried to do and what got them kicked off of the app store.

jvzr 6y ago
You're falling in their marketing trap. They are passing it now because it helps their case, but had they a lower percentage to begin with, they'd keep the price as it was. You think Epic is a benevolent corporation? No, they're a money-making machine selling pixel clothes and dances for their hit game. (I'm a gamer and I find Epic revolting.)
- shezi 6y ago
  Have you read any of the news surrounding the Epic Games Store? Like this: https://www.techradar.com/au/news/epic-games-store-would-drop-exclusives-if-steam-only-took-12-of-dev-revenue https://www.techradar.com/au/news/epic-games-store-would-dro... "Epic’s CEO Tim Sweeney has effectively thrown down the gauntlet to Valve, saying that if Steam matched the Epic Games Store in terms of dropping the cut it takes from developers to 12%, Epic would stop pursuing the policy of securing big-name exclusives." The entire point of the EGS is to get the industry to lower their skimming. And you don't even have to invoke altruism: if Epic continues to take 12% of every transaction and grows the market ten-fold, that's still more than a 30% cut of the market today. It is a sad testament to our time that it is inconceivable that a person just wants to better the situation for all involved. I'm a game developer and the EGS is the best thing that's happened to us as developers AND to us as gamers. And our games aren't even on the EGS.