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Apple is providing the platform that enables Epic to distribute their game for FREE to a billion+ users. Why shouldn't they take a cut from the in-app purchase

Apple is providing the platform that enables Epic to distribute their game for FREE to a billion+ users. Why shouldn't they take a cut from the in-app purchase monetization? It costs Apple server hosting, bandwidth, engineering to provide this service. Providing an alternative payment method at a discount is not the answer here, obviously players will choose the cheaper option. If Epic wants more money, maybe they should negotiate a smaller cut.

Jolter 6y ago
That’s exactly what Epic is trying to do. Their point is that the cut is too big, yet Apple refuses to negotiate.
- m3kw9 6y ago
  Any cut apple makes is too big in a corporation’s view. Even at 5% they will look to get it down to zero
la_oveja 6y ago
Epic could distribute the game themselves easily, if you don't remember they have their own videogame store in PC. They do the same on Android.
- sushid 6y ago
  They cannot on iOS and they stopped doing that on Android.
- deadbunny 6y ago
  You can sideload on iOS devices now?
beaner 6y ago
> Apple is providing the platform that enables Epic to distribute their game for FREE to a billion+ users. Why shouldn't they take a cut from the in-app purchase monetization? Then they should charge the developer for install costs + profit, not charge for all transactions happening in the game that have nothing to do with Apple and impose no cost on them. That's retarded. It's like a landlord taking 30% of sales from the local florist rather than just charging rent. Totally messed up.
- Pfhreak 6y ago
  Independent of whether I agree with you, you may want to consider finding a better way to express your disapproval than using people with developmental disabilities as an insult.
  - la_oveja 6y ago
    A retard is not someone with developmental disabilities. It's an insult to denote an unintelligent person.
- m3kw9 6y ago
  Except the game is free, so all free games can freeload?
  - beaner 6y ago
    The game is free to users but that doesn't mean Apple can't charge the developer for installs, especially if the developer is making a profit through in-app sales.
- qtXJ9EM 6y ago
  This literally exists and is commonplace in commercial real estate. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/percentage-lease.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/percentage-lease.asp
  - beaner 6y ago
    I'm not surprised! It seems like a reasonable option for those who have no initial capital to pay for their lease. But for those who come with capital ready, it can be a horrible deal. Being made to accept that option when you don't need it means you end up wasting much more money than you otherwise would. Same happens in the app store, in its absence of an option between these methods.
detaro 6y ago
> If Epic wants more money, maybe they should negotiate a smaller cut. You are currently watching them attempt to do that, after previous, less extreme, attempts have failed.

Jolter 6y ago

That’s exactly what Epic is trying to do. Their point is that the cut is too big, yet Apple refuses to negotiate.

m3kw9 6y ago
Any cut apple makes is too big in a corporation’s view. Even at 5% they will look to get it down to zero

la_oveja 6y ago

Epic could distribute the game themselves easily, if you don't remember they have their own videogame store in PC. They do the same on Android.

sushid 6y ago
They cannot on iOS and they stopped doing that on Android.
deadbunny 6y ago
You can sideload on iOS devices now?

beaner 6y ago

> Apple is providing the platform that enables Epic to distribute their game for FREE to a billion+ users. Why shouldn't they take a cut from the in-app purchase monetization? Then they should charge the developer for install costs + profit, not charge for all transactions happening in the game that have nothing to do with Apple and impose no cost on them. That's retarded. It's like a landlord taking 30% of sales from the local florist rather than just charging rent. Totally messed up.

Pfhreak 6y ago
Independent of whether I agree with you, you may want to consider finding a better way to express your disapproval than using people with developmental disabilities as an insult.
- la_oveja 6y ago
  A retard is not someone with developmental disabilities. It's an insult to denote an unintelligent person.
m3kw9 6y ago
Except the game is free, so all free games can freeload?
- beaner 6y ago
  The game is free to users but that doesn't mean Apple can't charge the developer for installs, especially if the developer is making a profit through in-app sales.
qtXJ9EM 6y ago
This literally exists and is commonplace in commercial real estate. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/percentage-lease.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/percentage-lease.asp
- beaner 6y ago
  I'm not surprised! It seems like a reasonable option for those who have no initial capital to pay for their lease. But for those who come with capital ready, it can be a horrible deal. Being made to accept that option when you don't need it means you end up wasting much more money than you otherwise would. Same happens in the app store, in its absence of an option between these methods.

detaro 6y ago

> If Epic wants more money, maybe they should negotiate a smaller cut. You are currently watching them attempt to do that, after previous, less extreme, attempts have failed.