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It's only going to get more brutal -- Trump is terrified of losing the legal protection of the presidency and will not hesitate to do literally anything to hold

It's only going to get more brutal -- Trump is terrified of losing the legal protection of the presidency and will not hesitate to do literally anything to hold on to it. This election is a referendum on the survival of humanity. I recognize that the previous sentence seems hyperbolic but I believe it to be the case. I'm terrified.

syshum 6y ago
In some ways I agree, but I bet I disagree what they referendum is because a Biden/Harris Presidency Terrifies me
- qdigital 6y ago
  What exactly about a Biden/Harris presidency terrifies you? Strong language there.
  - syshum 6y ago
    Well I am a libertarian, Both Biden and Harris are known "Tough on Crime" Authoritarians, I also oppose 99% of their platform including government run healthcare, extreme theft errr taxation, open social programs for anyone that happens to be physically located inside the boarders, their Identity / Social Justice Warrior politics, I could go on and on I support federalism, I support individual liberty, I support meritocracy. all of which they stand against
    - Miner49er 6y ago
      They literally support none of those things (except maybe identity politics).
      - pstuart 6y ago
        The think tanks' efforts to brand "socialism" as authoritarianism have paid off. M4A being painted as an authoritarian nightmare is a slick trick on their part.
        syshum 6y ago
        Can you point me to a non-authoritarian socialist nation, now or at any point in the past... Socialism fails very quickly if not backed by an Authoritarian form of government... Only with Authoritarian enforcement can it survive and then only with extreme poverty and misery for most people.
      - syshum 6y ago
        All of the things listed both have implicitly supported during the primary debates
    - tashoecraft 6y ago
      Literally every candidate must be seen as "Tough on Crime" because the public wont vote for anyone who doesn't make this appeal. This became a big Republican stance that Clinton embraced that helped him win the election. So please show me the not "tough on crime" politician that has any shot at winning an election.
      - Fjolsvith 6y ago
        Biden and Harris have done more for mass incarceration than anyone else. Which makes their selection by the Democrat party in today's "defund the police" narrative the funniest thing to happen in politics since Howard Dean's scream.
        happytoexplain 6y ago
        Describing things like this as "funny/hilarious" is a big red flag that a person is more interested in identity politics than good faith discussion.
        Fjolsvith 6y ago
        There it is. The shaming of an opinion. Be quiet, silent majority. Edit: Attack the messenger and you won't have to address the message.
      - tvaughan 6y ago
        This was when the Republicans had majorities in both chambers of Congress, Newt Gingrich was Speaker of the House, and the Republican's Contract on America was passed, unfortunately. The Democrats shifted right because they thought that's what would win them elections. Sure, Biden and Harris are terrible candidates because they're 1990s Republicans, but they're a million times better than Trump and Pence. The smear campaigns against them are an attempt to elevate Trump and Pence so he seems only as awful as Biden And Harris. Don't take the bait. Don't defend them. For a Republican to warn liberals that Biden and Harris don't deserve anyone's vote because they're those "tough on crime" types when it was Republicans who shut the government down to force through "tough on crime" legislation and codify "tough on crime" as a requisite to hold political office is some serious b.s.
    - ykevinator 6y ago
      This is unrelated to a presidents attempt to reduce voting, I would think you would be pro voting
- xg15 6y ago
  Why that?
- pstuart 6y ago
  A lot of the tough on crime stuff is Dem's trying to counter the "law and order" playbook by the GOP. Criminal "justice" definitely needs to be re-examined and re-worked.
staplers 6y ago
Pretty hyperbolic statement. America (the federal entity) might be in danger of survival long-term but humanity has survived much worse. You don't even need to go back 100 years to imagine what it looks like for a major nation to collapse under authoritarianism.
- pstuart 6y ago
  Climate change is coming faster than expected. It will be ignored by the Trump regime, just like the pandemic is.

syshum 6y ago

In some ways I agree, but I bet I disagree what they referendum is because a Biden/Harris Presidency Terrifies me

qdigital 6y ago
What exactly about a Biden/Harris presidency terrifies you? Strong language there.
- syshum 6y ago
  Well I am a libertarian, Both Biden and Harris are known "Tough on Crime" Authoritarians, I also oppose 99% of their platform including government run healthcare, extreme theft errr taxation, open social programs for anyone that happens to be physically located inside the boarders, their Identity / Social Justice Warrior politics, I could go on and on I support federalism, I support individual liberty, I support meritocracy. all of which they stand against
  - Miner49er 6y ago
    They literally support none of those things (except maybe identity politics).
    - pstuart 6y ago
      The think tanks' efforts to brand "socialism" as authoritarianism have paid off. M4A being painted as an authoritarian nightmare is a slick trick on their part.
      - syshum 6y ago
        Can you point me to a non-authoritarian socialist nation, now or at any point in the past... Socialism fails very quickly if not backed by an Authoritarian form of government... Only with Authoritarian enforcement can it survive and then only with extreme poverty and misery for most people.
    - syshum 6y ago
      All of the things listed both have implicitly supported during the primary debates
  - tashoecraft 6y ago
    Literally every candidate must be seen as "Tough on Crime" because the public wont vote for anyone who doesn't make this appeal. This became a big Republican stance that Clinton embraced that helped him win the election. So please show me the not "tough on crime" politician that has any shot at winning an election.
    - Fjolsvith 6y ago
      Biden and Harris have done more for mass incarceration than anyone else. Which makes their selection by the Democrat party in today's "defund the police" narrative the funniest thing to happen in politics since Howard Dean's scream.
      - happytoexplain 6y ago
        Describing things like this as "funny/hilarious" is a big red flag that a person is more interested in identity politics than good faith discussion.
        Fjolsvith 6y ago
        There it is. The shaming of an opinion. Be quiet, silent majority. Edit: Attack the messenger and you won't have to address the message.
    - tvaughan 6y ago
      This was when the Republicans had majorities in both chambers of Congress, Newt Gingrich was Speaker of the House, and the Republican's Contract on America was passed, unfortunately. The Democrats shifted right because they thought that's what would win them elections. Sure, Biden and Harris are terrible candidates because they're 1990s Republicans, but they're a million times better than Trump and Pence. The smear campaigns against them are an attempt to elevate Trump and Pence so he seems only as awful as Biden And Harris. Don't take the bait. Don't defend them. For a Republican to warn liberals that Biden and Harris don't deserve anyone's vote because they're those "tough on crime" types when it was Republicans who shut the government down to force through "tough on crime" legislation and codify "tough on crime" as a requisite to hold political office is some serious b.s.
  - ykevinator 6y ago
    This is unrelated to a presidents attempt to reduce voting, I would think you would be pro voting
xg15 6y ago
Why that?
pstuart 6y ago
A lot of the tough on crime stuff is Dem's trying to counter the "law and order" playbook by the GOP. Criminal "justice" definitely needs to be re-examined and re-worked.

staplers 6y ago

Pretty hyperbolic statement. America (the federal entity) might be in danger of survival long-term but humanity has survived much worse. You don't even need to go back 100 years to imagine what it looks like for a major nation to collapse under authoritarianism.

pstuart 6y ago
Climate change is coming faster than expected. It will be ignored by the Trump regime, just like the pandemic is.