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The Republican party wants to be a dictatorship. They are putting party over country. They don't want to lose and win at all costs. I wish Obama had done someth

by sg47 6y ago

The Republican party wants to be a dictatorship. They are putting party over country. They don't want to lose and win at all costs. I wish Obama had done something like this to make sure Trump didn't get elected (this statement is intended to trigger Republicans and force them to defend Trump's actions)

pstuart 6y ago
Indeed. We have fallen to a fascist coup. The question is whether or not they can hold on to it.
Tostino 6y ago
There were so many things which aren't horrible for our democracy which could have been done to change how 2016 turned out. Not taking a shit on the progressive wing of the party at every step may have helped some, actually campaigning in some of the states she assumed to have in the bag and then lost may have helped too. Obama doing something anti-democratic, illegal, etc to ensure Trump wasn't elected is not a step I would ever support.
war1025 6y ago
> The Republican party wants to be a dictatorship. They are putting party over country. They don't want to lose and win at all costs. The Democratic party seems much more interested in seizing power by force than the Republicans. Every time I see this line of thought, the only thing I can figure is that it's the classic idea of "You see the worst of yourself in your enemies"
- sg47 6y ago
  No, Republicans are and have always been the corrupt ones. If at all anything, Democrats are too fair because you know they tend to be decent human beings. Republicans are too power hungry and want to win at all costs.
  - war1025 6y ago
    This is a garbage point of view, and I would suggest that you are blinded by party propaganda. The majority of Democrats are good people. The majority of Republicans are good people. As fun as it is to claim the other side is the devil, most people want basically the same things.
    - sg47 6y ago
      Majority of Republicans are racist given the fact they voted for Trump. I'm not sure how you claim them to be good people.
      - war1025 6y ago
        Well, I'm not a registered Republican, but I did vote for Trump and plan to vote for him again this fall. So I guess you can come shoot me at sunrise if it really tickles your fancy.
  - JadeNB 6y ago
    > No, Republicans are and have always been the corrupt ones. If at all anything, Democrats are too fair because you know they tend to be decent human beings. Republicans are too power hungry and want to win at all costs. I'm a Democrat, and reasonably proud to be so—more proud than I would be to be a Republican, at any rate—but looking back through American history should make you very hesitant to claim anything about what Republicans and Democrats always have been. Democrats have often been the "big party" tent, and that's good; but it means, for example, that we embraced and welcome secessionists for a long time. That's a legacy we largely left behind with LBJ, and I'm glad we did, but it would be disingenuous to disown it. It used to be meaningful to talk about liberal versus conservative Democrats, and liberal versus conservative Republicans; don't assume that how things are now is how they've always been, or even how they've been for more than a few decades.

by sg47 6y ago

pstuart 6y ago

Indeed. We have fallen to a fascist coup. The question is whether or not they can hold on to it.

Tostino 6y ago

There were so many things which aren't horrible for our democracy which could have been done to change how 2016 turned out. Not taking a shit on the progressive wing of the party at every step may have helped some, actually campaigning in some of the states she assumed to have in the bag and then lost may have helped too. Obama doing something anti-democratic, illegal, etc to ensure Trump wasn't elected is not a step I would ever support.

war1025 6y ago

> The Republican party wants to be a dictatorship. They are putting party over country. They don't want to lose and win at all costs. The Democratic party seems much more interested in seizing power by force than the Republicans. Every time I see this line of thought, the only thing I can figure is that it's the classic idea of "You see the worst of yourself in your enemies"

sg47 6y ago
No, Republicans are and have always been the corrupt ones. If at all anything, Democrats are too fair because you know they tend to be decent human beings. Republicans are too power hungry and want to win at all costs.
- war1025 6y ago
  This is a garbage point of view, and I would suggest that you are blinded by party propaganda. The majority of Democrats are good people. The majority of Republicans are good people. As fun as it is to claim the other side is the devil, most people want basically the same things.
  - sg47 6y ago
    Majority of Republicans are racist given the fact they voted for Trump. I'm not sure how you claim them to be good people.
    - war1025 6y ago
      Well, I'm not a registered Republican, but I did vote for Trump and plan to vote for him again this fall. So I guess you can come shoot me at sunrise if it really tickles your fancy.
- JadeNB 6y ago
  > No, Republicans are and have always been the corrupt ones. If at all anything, Democrats are too fair because you know they tend to be decent human beings. Republicans are too power hungry and want to win at all costs. I'm a Democrat, and reasonably proud to be so—more proud than I would be to be a Republican, at any rate—but looking back through American history should make you very hesitant to claim anything about what Republicans and Democrats always have been. Democrats have often been the "big party" tent, and that's good; but it means, for example, that we embraced and welcome secessionists for a long time. That's a legacy we largely left behind with LBJ, and I'm glad we did, but it would be disingenuous to disown it. It used to be meaningful to talk about liberal versus conservative Democrats, and liberal versus conservative Republicans; don't assume that how things are now is how they've always been, or even how they've been for more than a few decades.