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You're generalizing your own opinion. If I could buy an iPhone and run Android on it, I would do that. Instead I'm stuck choosing between good hardware with cra

You're generalizing your own opinion. If I could buy an iPhone and run Android on it, I would do that. Instead I'm stuck choosing between good hardware with crappy OS (Apple) vs. outdated hardware with an OS that fits my needs (all Android devices).

viro 6y ago
no you wouldn't apple devices are better BECAUSE of the software. On avg the hardware is under powered compered to android hardware.
- delroth 6y ago
  This is blatantly wrong. Apple's CPU and GPU designs have been years ahead of Qualcomm/Samsung/... for years now, especially regarding single core performance. Check any mobile device benchmark.
  - viro 6y ago
    was that benchmark done on non-apple software?
    - fomine3 6y ago
      FYI: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14892/the-apple-iphone-11-pro-and-max-review/2 https://www.anandtech.com/show/14892/the-apple-iphone-11-pro... SPEC2006 is industrial standard, and other 3rd party benchmark tested.
  - HacklesRaised 6y ago
    Not really, Apple's CPU/GPU teams are very good, hey chaps and chapesses, but their primary advantage comes from the fact that Apple is looking at revenue for the entire device, the SOC is not the product. They can afford a little more cache etc. It's also right to point out that the margin is pretty narrow in A13 and Snapdragon 865 guise. So saying they are year(s) ahead is hyperbole, perhaps 6 months! In anycase the relatively close performance of the current SOCs makes me eager to see what they do with Apple Silicon in order to bridge the gap to Desktop/Laptop class performance? I do wonder whether the current cooling solutions in Apple's laptops are more about delivering the best product to the consumer or creating a favourable comparison to their own silicon. I found this LTT, https://youtu.be/MlOPPuNv4Ec?t=321 https://youtu.be/MlOPPuNv4Ec?t=321, intriguing and wonder if this is deliberate or a manufacturing defect. Note the gap between the CPU lid and the die. It's a fairly entertaining video, the things they try but that gap, the entire cooling solution actually, are a little hard to understand.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  Not at all.
  - viro 6y ago
    .. umm android users have been talking shit about iPhone specs for years
    - surfpel 6y ago
      They’ve also been wrong for years
      - mirthflat83 6y ago
        Sums up the general Android population
polyomino 6y ago
You really wouldn't want to do that. Android phones still need @20-30% more powerful hardware to get comparable performance.

viro 6y ago

no you wouldn't apple devices are better BECAUSE of the software. On avg the hardware is under powered compered to android hardware.

delroth 6y ago
This is blatantly wrong. Apple's CPU and GPU designs have been years ahead of Qualcomm/Samsung/... for years now, especially regarding single core performance. Check any mobile device benchmark.
- viro 6y ago
  was that benchmark done on non-apple software?
  - fomine3 6y ago
    FYI: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14892/the-apple-iphone-11-pro-and-max-review/2 https://www.anandtech.com/show/14892/the-apple-iphone-11-pro... SPEC2006 is industrial standard, and other 3rd party benchmark tested.
- HacklesRaised 6y ago
  Not really, Apple's CPU/GPU teams are very good, hey chaps and chapesses, but their primary advantage comes from the fact that Apple is looking at revenue for the entire device, the SOC is not the product. They can afford a little more cache etc. It's also right to point out that the margin is pretty narrow in A13 and Snapdragon 865 guise. So saying they are year(s) ahead is hyperbole, perhaps 6 months! In anycase the relatively close performance of the current SOCs makes me eager to see what they do with Apple Silicon in order to bridge the gap to Desktop/Laptop class performance? I do wonder whether the current cooling solutions in Apple's laptops are more about delivering the best product to the consumer or creating a favourable comparison to their own silicon. I found this LTT, https://youtu.be/MlOPPuNv4Ec?t=321 https://youtu.be/MlOPPuNv4Ec?t=321, intriguing and wonder if this is deliberate or a manufacturing defect. Note the gap between the CPU lid and the die. It's a fairly entertaining video, the things they try but that gap, the entire cooling solution actually, are a little hard to understand.
saagarjha 6y ago
Not at all.
- viro 6y ago
  .. umm android users have been talking shit about iPhone specs for years
  - surfpel 6y ago
    They’ve also been wrong for years
    - mirthflat83 6y ago
      Sums up the general Android population

polyomino 6y ago

You really wouldn't want to do that. Android phones still need @20-30% more powerful hardware to get comparable performance.