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People will take sides in this and I think they will be missing the point. These are just 2 greedy corporations strong-arming each other and trying to win some

People will take sides in this and I think they will be missing the point. These are just 2 greedy corporations strong-arming each other and trying to win some hearts in the public space. Epic would do the same if they were in Apple's position and Apple would do the same if they were in Epic's position. This is just 21st century politics and it’s all about money.

arduinomancer 6y ago
I don't think that matters because its clear the end consumer would benefit here if epic were allowed their own payment system.
- jdmoreira 6y ago
  Do you really think they wouldn’t maximize their profit anyway? Being more expensive in the appstore is just politics.
  - mrep 6y ago
    pgrote posted this tweet elsewhere in the thread [0]. They literally gave users the option for apple app store pay for $9.99 and Epic direct payment as $7.99. [0]: https://twitter.com/ballmatthew/status/1293893660493455360 https://twitter.com/ballmatthew/status/1293893660493455360
    - jdmoreira 6y ago
      Which is just a genius PR move
Sargos 6y ago
This is a naive take on the situation. Sure they are both companies and looking to make money but this issue transcends both of them and is a core freedom of choice issue. As a society are we allowed to run software that we want or are we okay with being told which software is deemed acceptable for us? This question would be thorny if it even were a political issue but at this point it's literally a private corporation with no accountability unilaterally deciding what software is deemed worthy of use for a large portion of the entire world. That's dangerous and not at all a good place to be in.
- jdmoreira 6y ago
  It has been like that for 10 years since the start of the Appstore. The difference now is that these platforms are getting big enough that public opinion are starting to look at them as classical infrastructure / utilities. That’s why it needs to be regulated and I agree with that 100%. But Apple is obviously just one example among thousands. Even Epic runs their own marketplace.
wvenable 6y ago
If the names were swapped, one of them would still be wrong and the other right. Taking sides on this issue the whole point of this discussion regardless of who's involved.

arduinomancer 6y ago

I don't think that matters because its clear the end consumer would benefit here if epic were allowed their own payment system.

jdmoreira 6y ago
Do you really think they wouldn’t maximize their profit anyway? Being more expensive in the appstore is just politics.
- mrep 6y ago
  pgrote posted this tweet elsewhere in the thread [0]. They literally gave users the option for apple app store pay for $9.99 and Epic direct payment as $7.99. [0]: https://twitter.com/ballmatthew/status/1293893660493455360 https://twitter.com/ballmatthew/status/1293893660493455360
  - jdmoreira 6y ago
    Which is just a genius PR move

Sargos 6y ago

This is a naive take on the situation. Sure they are both companies and looking to make money but this issue transcends both of them and is a core freedom of choice issue. As a society are we allowed to run software that we want or are we okay with being told which software is deemed acceptable for us? This question would be thorny if it even were a political issue but at this point it's literally a private corporation with no accountability unilaterally deciding what software is deemed worthy of use for a large portion of the entire world. That's dangerous and not at all a good place to be in.

jdmoreira 6y ago
It has been like that for 10 years since the start of the Appstore. The difference now is that these platforms are getting big enough that public opinion are starting to look at them as classical infrastructure / utilities. That’s why it needs to be regulated and I agree with that 100%. But Apple is obviously just one example among thousands. Even Epic runs their own marketplace.

wvenable 6y ago

If the names were swapped, one of them would still be wrong and the other right. Taking sides on this issue the whole point of this discussion regardless of who's involved.