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My wholly unqualified opinion as forever firefox user: They are going to push their VPN, Pocket and Lockwise like never before. They are also going to focus on

My wholly unqualified opinion as forever firefox user: They are going to push their VPN, Pocket and Lockwise like never before. They are also going to focus on their incubator hoping for a big win. Firefox the browser will start to stagnate, and in five years or so they'll switch to WebKit. The focus is now not the browser or the browser engine. It's selling Fix-the-Internet type products that have a dash of security theater baked in.

goldfishlover 6y ago
Pretty screwed up for a org that exists to write a web browser
komali2 6y ago
I can't find where I read this, but I remember seeing some article about how Pocket was essentially dead, i.e. nobody's really working on it.
- yarrel 6y ago
  Good. The partnership with, acquisition of, and integration of Pocket was an embarrassment. It was also an indication of just how bad Mozilla's management are at trying to make money. We'll see a lot more business theater like this before the team are replaces with people who know what they're doing.
  - perryizgr8 6y ago
    The implementation may have been bad, but I thought it was a unique way to add some revenue. Pocket seemed like a useful product that would appeal to the technical focused userbase Firefox has. It's sad that it didn't work out for Mozilla. I feel disappointed with the failure of companies like Mozilla and canonical to thrive. They have the right values, the talent, and good products. They just don't seem to be able to make money. It feels like the only way to make money is by spying on your users, or doing other unsavory things like Apple does.
    - Crespyl 6y ago
      If they'd ever got around to actually open-sourcing the thing like they kept promising they would, I expect people would've been more on-board with it. I would've been happy to pay a modest subscription for a fully open-source Pocket stack with better archive management.

goldfishlover 6y ago

Pretty screwed up for a org that exists to write a web browser

komali2 6y ago

I can't find where I read this, but I remember seeing some article about how Pocket was essentially dead, i.e. nobody's really working on it.

yarrel 6y ago
Good. The partnership with, acquisition of, and integration of Pocket was an embarrassment. It was also an indication of just how bad Mozilla's management are at trying to make money. We'll see a lot more business theater like this before the team are replaces with people who know what they're doing.
- perryizgr8 6y ago
  The implementation may have been bad, but I thought it was a unique way to add some revenue. Pocket seemed like a useful product that would appeal to the technical focused userbase Firefox has. It's sad that it didn't work out for Mozilla. I feel disappointed with the failure of companies like Mozilla and canonical to thrive. They have the right values, the talent, and good products. They just don't seem to be able to make money. It feels like the only way to make money is by spying on your users, or doing other unsavory things like Apple does.
  - Crespyl 6y ago
    If they'd ever got around to actually open-sourcing the thing like they kept promising they would, I expect people would've been more on-board with it. I would've been happy to pay a modest subscription for a fully open-source Pocket stack with better archive management.