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Just the thought of countries and cultures coming together makes the future look positive.

chmod775 6y ago
These two cultures can't come together while staying the same, and both countries consider their culture worth protecting. I am not optimistic.
- Igorvelky 6y ago
  actually, china doesnt care about other countries culture, USA does care, whole soft power shtick is build around this. china need to build other countries to prosper, usa is deforming agriculture in africa thru donations, help to cripple economics of african countries. https://www.lejournalinternational.fr/Foreign-aid-is-hurting-not-helping-Sub-Saharan-Africa_a2085.html https://www.lejournalinternational.fr/Foreign-aid-is-hurting...
- onyva 6y ago
  If there are two cultures in the Middle East it’s Eastern European immigrants that never belonged there, and middle eastern people, Jews and Arabs, which coexisted. The persecution complex of the Eastern European Jews (a people that annexed itself and has no ethnic relation to us) is a manufactured clash of civilizations.
  - shliachtx 6y ago
    The implication - that Jews who were in Eastern Europe are not "real" Jews - is a wonderful example of anti-semitism. You only forgot to add on "Go back to Poland!" Edit: Also, "the persecution complex" - as if the single greatest attempt at genocide in modern history was NOT targeted at Jews.
    - helge9210 6y ago
      What about artificial famine in Ukraine 1932?
      - shliachtx 6y ago
        I stand corrected. One of the two greatest attempt at genocide. That has no bearing on my argument, however.
    - onyva 6y ago
      There are really no new claims here. 1. https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543 https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543 2. The Ben Gurion’s and following administrations in Israel tried to include the experience of all Jews in the diaspora under the same sense of persecution. That was not the case for Jews in North Africa and Asia.
      - shliachtx 6y ago
        So you are doubling down on your conpiracy-minded and anti-semitic claim that Ashkenazi Jews are not real. I am going to link a Reddit comment I found with a very quick Google search that addresses it and call it a night. I hope you are able to remove the hate from your eyes. https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/8g1jhd/so_which_people_are_related_to_a_near_100/dy8cwr8/ https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/8g1jhd/so_which_pe... Edit: One more thing. Please point me to the thriving North African and Middle Eastern Jewish communities that you describe. They do not exist because they were persecuted. Some countries less so, but to claim that there was no persecution is a complete distortion of history. Good night!
        onyva 6y ago
        Jews in North Africa and Asia lived in coexistence in their communities for hundred of years. As dhimis for sure, but nothing like what the grand parents of Nethanyhu lived in Poland. There’s nothing to compare. Also Jews of Western and central Europe, which were then mostly Sephardi(at least in Western Europe), like Hertzl, were emancipated and definitely did not experience 1st hand what was happening in Eastern Europe. Hertzl was not even aware of Pinsker for instance. It was only following the holocaust that the post Hertzl Zionist movement realized they need to more bodies. zionist activists were sent across North Africa and Asian communities to agitate, breaking up families in the process while trying to force the young and healthy to immigrate to Palestine. I did my homework. Maybe you should too?
  - dang 6y ago
    You've been repeatedly posting flamebait and political battle comments to HN. That's not what the site is for, and if you keep doing it we will ban you. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
- nine_zeros 6y ago
  Why is coming together same as eroding culture?
  - atomi 6y ago
    Ask Native Americans.
    - nine_zeros 6y ago
      This is not colonization. Connection of cultures is important for civilizations to grow into the future.
- rowanseymour 6y ago
  This has nothing to do with culture. This is Israel's apartheid regime and the UAE's oil sheikhs doing business.

These two cultures can't come together while staying the same, and both countries consider their culture worth protecting. I am not optimistic.

Igorvelky 6y ago
actually, china doesnt care about other countries culture, USA does care, whole soft power shtick is build around this. china need to build other countries to prosper, usa is deforming agriculture in africa thru donations, help to cripple economics of african countries. https://www.lejournalinternational.fr/Foreign-aid-is-hurting-not-helping-Sub-Saharan-Africa_a2085.html https://www.lejournalinternational.fr/Foreign-aid-is-hurting...
onyva 6y ago
If there are two cultures in the Middle East it’s Eastern European immigrants that never belonged there, and middle eastern people, Jews and Arabs, which coexisted. The persecution complex of the Eastern European Jews (a people that annexed itself and has no ethnic relation to us) is a manufactured clash of civilizations.
- shliachtx 6y ago
  The implication - that Jews who were in Eastern Europe are not "real" Jews - is a wonderful example of anti-semitism. You only forgot to add on "Go back to Poland!" Edit: Also, "the persecution complex" - as if the single greatest attempt at genocide in modern history was NOT targeted at Jews.
  - helge9210 6y ago
    What about artificial famine in Ukraine 1932?
    - shliachtx 6y ago
      I stand corrected. One of the two greatest attempt at genocide. That has no bearing on my argument, however.
  - onyva 6y ago
    There are really no new claims here. 1. https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543 https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543 2. The Ben Gurion’s and following administrations in Israel tried to include the experience of all Jews in the diaspora under the same sense of persecution. That was not the case for Jews in North Africa and Asia.
    - shliachtx 6y ago
      So you are doubling down on your conpiracy-minded and anti-semitic claim that Ashkenazi Jews are not real. I am going to link a Reddit comment I found with a very quick Google search that addresses it and call it a night. I hope you are able to remove the hate from your eyes. https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/8g1jhd/so_which_people_are_related_to_a_near_100/dy8cwr8/ https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/8g1jhd/so_which_pe... Edit: One more thing. Please point me to the thriving North African and Middle Eastern Jewish communities that you describe. They do not exist because they were persecuted. Some countries less so, but to claim that there was no persecution is a complete distortion of history. Good night!
      - onyva 6y ago
        Jews in North Africa and Asia lived in coexistence in their communities for hundred of years. As dhimis for sure, but nothing like what the grand parents of Nethanyhu lived in Poland. There’s nothing to compare. Also Jews of Western and central Europe, which were then mostly Sephardi(at least in Western Europe), like Hertzl, were emancipated and definitely did not experience 1st hand what was happening in Eastern Europe. Hertzl was not even aware of Pinsker for instance. It was only following the holocaust that the post Hertzl Zionist movement realized they need to more bodies. zionist activists were sent across North Africa and Asian communities to agitate, breaking up families in the process while trying to force the young and healthy to immigrate to Palestine. I did my homework. Maybe you should too?
- dang 6y ago
  You've been repeatedly posting flamebait and political battle comments to HN. That's not what the site is for, and if you keep doing it we will ban you. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
nine_zeros 6y ago
Why is coming together same as eroding culture?
- atomi 6y ago
  Ask Native Americans.
  - nine_zeros 6y ago
    This is not colonization. Connection of cultures is important for civilizations to grow into the future.
rowanseymour 6y ago
This has nothing to do with culture. This is Israel's apartheid regime and the UAE's oil sheikhs doing business.