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1. super charging network 2. brand name , a car is still a status symbol, owning a bmw, kia ect is not a social signal. 3. autonomous driving and software

actuator 6y ago
Wait, I must have missed something. Is BMW's image bad? That wouldn't explain them able to survive some of the high price points, they sell cars at.
- p_l 6y ago
  Depends which BMW :D In Poland, BMW can mean "expensive luxury sports car", or "Bolid Młodzieży Wiejskiej", a pejorative name that means "Village Youth Vehicle", as a lot of used BMW from specific series were available cheap and with good performance. To the point that road police started stopping cars based on them being specific BMW models.
  - actuator 6y ago
    I think this sort of image, high end car plays like Jaguar, Lexus avoid to an extent. I don't see how Tesla would maintain an edge of luxury over them if they can get good performance in their EVs.
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  He said social signal, not status symbol. Both cars say something about how much money you make. It's the other stuff that's different.
- dominotw 6y ago
  Its not its bad, different type of signaling. BMW = money is king, capitalism, golden toilet, 1990, closed minded to new things. Tesla = environmentally conscious, "i care" , forward looking, open to trying new things.
fxtentacle 6y ago
Most people in Germany consider BMW and Porsche to be highly prestigious, while Tesla is seen as a wannabe hipster toy. If you consider that most CEOs are 40+ and have driven BMW for 20 years, that kinda makes sense.
- dominotw 6y ago
  > most CEOs are 40+ and have driven BMW This precisely proves the point i was trying to make, thank you :) BMW, Mercedes ect represent old school "money is everything" mentality. Porsche is famously a "doubhebag" car https://www.gq.com/gallery/douche-cars-jamie-lincoln-kitman https://www.gq.com/gallery/douche-cars-jamie-lincoln-kitman

actuator 6y ago

Wait, I must have missed something. Is BMW's image bad? That wouldn't explain them able to survive some of the high price points, they sell cars at.

p_l 6y ago
Depends which BMW :D In Poland, BMW can mean "expensive luxury sports car", or "Bolid Młodzieży Wiejskiej", a pejorative name that means "Village Youth Vehicle", as a lot of used BMW from specific series were available cheap and with good performance. To the point that road police started stopping cars based on them being specific BMW models.
- actuator 6y ago
  I think this sort of image, high end car plays like Jaguar, Lexus avoid to an extent. I don't see how Tesla would maintain an edge of luxury over them if they can get good performance in their EVs.
throwaway0a5e 6y ago
He said social signal, not status symbol. Both cars say something about how much money you make. It's the other stuff that's different.
dominotw 6y ago
Its not its bad, different type of signaling. BMW = money is king, capitalism, golden toilet, 1990, closed minded to new things. Tesla = environmentally conscious, "i care" , forward looking, open to trying new things.

fxtentacle 6y ago

Most people in Germany consider BMW and Porsche to be highly prestigious, while Tesla is seen as a wannabe hipster toy. If you consider that most CEOs are 40+ and have driven BMW for 20 years, that kinda makes sense.

dominotw 6y ago
> most CEOs are 40+ and have driven BMW This precisely proves the point i was trying to make, thank you :) BMW, Mercedes ect represent old school "money is everything" mentality. Porsche is famously a "doubhebag" car https://www.gq.com/gallery/douche-cars-jamie-lincoln-kitman https://www.gq.com/gallery/douche-cars-jamie-lincoln-kitman