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>you would declare a bunch of standard tech industry jobs to be "superfluous", It looks like you're misquoting GP. Unless they edited it later and I didn't n

by jasode 6y ago

>you would declare a bunch of standard tech industry jobs to be "superfluous", It looks like you're misquoting GP. Unless they edited it later and I didn't notice... the commenter said, "_seems_ superflous" not "_are_ superfluous". They said they were willing to be educated on what those roles did.

72deluxe 6y ago
Thanks. I did not edit it. I did indeed state that they "seemed superfluous" and that I am willing to be educated.
diffeomorphism 6y ago
How do you think this makes it at all better? This "I only said you 'seem' like an <expletive>. That wasn't an insult." is something not even preschool children would be fooled by.
- luckylion 6y ago
  Read the next words as well. that seem superfluous to the main core concept of browser development. It wasn't claimed that "no company should ever have those jobs", just that they don't really seem central to browser development.
- justwalt 6y ago
  I think we should assume the most charitable interpretation, unless we all want to sound like angry old men. Keeps interaction pleasant in spite of anonymity.
  - jiveturkey 6y ago
    eh? the interaction itself was pleasant. the bikeshedding OTOH ...
jstummbillig 6y ago
It feels awkward having to spell this out: Throwing a "seems" into a sentence, and ending with "but I am willing to be educated" doesn't make whatever precedes it innocuous. Don't share if you know (and admit) that you have no idea what you are talking about. If all you want to do is learn, ask. Nobody is interested in ignorant assumptions. Also you might take offense in my interpretation of what has been written but I did not misquote anything.
- jasode 6y ago
  >It feels awkward having to spell this out: Throwing a "seems" into a sentence, and ending with "but I am willing to be educated" doesn't make whatever precedes it innocuous. Yes, I'm aware of the rhetorical technique of the "question that's actually a veiled insult". E.g. "Why does Facebook/Airbnb/Dropbox have all those thousands of programmers?!? What do they all do?!?" ... are often not really sincere questions but really a humblebrag of commenter saying, "I can code a Facebook clone over the weekend with one hand tied behind my back...yada yada yada" I hope my example above shows the we both have a shared understanding of unstated but implied messages in what people write. That said, I still think it's a more productive discussion to try to answer the question the way pjc50 did[1] rather than the retaliatory criticism of your reply. >Nobody is interested in ignorant assumptions. Well, those "ignorant assumptions" was (for several hours) the top-voted comment in this thread so it seems that many are interested in it. (I'm using "seems" in a sincere way.) If you think it's unproductive to try to answer the commenter's question because you believe they were only trolling Mozilla, consider reframing it as "educating all the lurkers who upvoted that comment". The silent lurkers may have sincere curiosity about what all those roles actually do even if the commenter you responded to does not. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24142700 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24142700

by jasode 6y ago

72deluxe 6y ago

Thanks. I did not edit it. I did indeed state that they "seemed superfluous" and that I am willing to be educated.

diffeomorphism 6y ago

How do you think this makes it at all better? This "I only said you 'seem' like an <expletive>. That wasn't an insult." is something not even preschool children would be fooled by.

luckylion 6y ago
Read the next words as well. that seem superfluous to the main core concept of browser development. It wasn't claimed that "no company should ever have those jobs", just that they don't really seem central to browser development.
justwalt 6y ago
I think we should assume the most charitable interpretation, unless we all want to sound like angry old men. Keeps interaction pleasant in spite of anonymity.
- jiveturkey 6y ago
  eh? the interaction itself was pleasant. the bikeshedding OTOH ...

jstummbillig 6y ago

It feels awkward having to spell this out: Throwing a "seems" into a sentence, and ending with "but I am willing to be educated" doesn't make whatever precedes it innocuous. Don't share if you know (and admit) that you have no idea what you are talking about. If all you want to do is learn, ask. Nobody is interested in ignorant assumptions. Also you might take offense in my interpretation of what has been written but I did not misquote anything.

jasode 6y ago
>It feels awkward having to spell this out: Throwing a "seems" into a sentence, and ending with "but I am willing to be educated" doesn't make whatever precedes it innocuous. Yes, I'm aware of the rhetorical technique of the "question that's actually a veiled insult". E.g. "Why does Facebook/Airbnb/Dropbox have all those thousands of programmers?!? What do they all do?!?" ... are often not really sincere questions but really a humblebrag of commenter saying, "I can code a Facebook clone over the weekend with one hand tied behind my back...yada yada yada" I hope my example above shows the we both have a shared understanding of unstated but implied messages in what people write. That said, I still think it's a more productive discussion to try to answer the question the way pjc50 did[1] rather than the retaliatory criticism of your reply. >Nobody is interested in ignorant assumptions. Well, those "ignorant assumptions" was (for several hours) the top-voted comment in this thread so it seems that many are interested in it. (I'm using "seems" in a sincere way.) If you think it's unproductive to try to answer the commenter's question because you believe they were only trolling Mozilla, consider reframing it as "educating all the lurkers who upvoted that comment". The silent lurkers may have sincere curiosity about what all those roles actually do even if the commenter you responded to does not. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24142700 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24142700