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We Tested Instagram Reels, the TikTok Clone. What a Dud

15 points by elorant 6y ago

rvz 6y ago
Snapchat to TikTok: First Time? It is Facebook's nature to copy the competition and they will stop at nothing to integrate every single feature until it impacts TikTok. I'm suprised to see that the authors of this article have failed to mention the same tactics used to suffocate Snapchat are being applied to TikTok. But in the case for FB, "Competition is for Losers" [0]. But yes for Instagram, its business as usual until every TikTok feature is copied to death. [0] https://www.wsj.com/articles/peter-thiel-competition-is-for-losers-1410535536 https://www.wsj.com/articles/peter-thiel-competition-is-for-...
- fsociety 6y ago
  Copying competitors directly goes against the idea that “competition is for losers” has. Instead this is Facebook entering a market where TikTok took the “competition is for losers” case - in that they had no competition when they were building it. If Facebook makes a poorly copied TikTok, then through what mechanisms would TikTok “lose” to Facebook? That’s where anti-trust should look at with care to not lean against network effect, in my opinion. I’d argue a big tech company has a right to copy, especially if the business is zero-margin/internet enabled. I say that because Amazon eats money to undercut competitors and that could be seen as anti-competitive behavior. But if the copy beats the original, it should be because the product was better. Other food for thought. In Slack vs Microsoft Teams, some argue that Slack is significantly better than Teams but discount that Teams has a full product line for organizations to take advantage of. I would argue that is not anti-competitive.. instead it’s a good product offering. It’s not a lose-lose situation for Slack either. There are nice ways to improve their product offering without taking a similar weight to maintaining M$ Office/Excel and such.
llboston 6y ago
Wechat has added a TikTok like feature this year as well and it's doing pretty well.
- Fjolsvith 6y ago
  Yet Wechat faces a ban too, right?
sjg007 6y ago
Yep. I agree it's a dud.
jdpigeon 6y ago
I find this an uplifting reminder that it's still possible for competition to happen in the world of social media.
zalkota 6y ago
Competition is good, get used to it.
- sushid 6y ago
  Did you read the article? The competition sucks. FB literally has government intervention on it's side and it can't pump our Reels reasonably.
Fjolsvith 6y ago
If TikTok isn't allowed in the US, couldn't someone make an exact clone? Or would copyright law prevent it?

15 points by elorant 6y ago

rvz 6y ago

Snapchat to TikTok: First Time? It is Facebook's nature to copy the competition and they will stop at nothing to integrate every single feature until it impacts TikTok. I'm suprised to see that the authors of this article have failed to mention the same tactics used to suffocate Snapchat are being applied to TikTok. But in the case for FB, "Competition is for Losers" [0]. But yes for Instagram, its business as usual until every TikTok feature is copied to death. [0] https://www.wsj.com/articles/peter-thiel-competition-is-for-losers-1410535536 https://www.wsj.com/articles/peter-thiel-competition-is-for-...

fsociety 6y ago
Copying competitors directly goes against the idea that “competition is for losers” has. Instead this is Facebook entering a market where TikTok took the “competition is for losers” case - in that they had no competition when they were building it. If Facebook makes a poorly copied TikTok, then through what mechanisms would TikTok “lose” to Facebook? That’s where anti-trust should look at with care to not lean against network effect, in my opinion. I’d argue a big tech company has a right to copy, especially if the business is zero-margin/internet enabled. I say that because Amazon eats money to undercut competitors and that could be seen as anti-competitive behavior. But if the copy beats the original, it should be because the product was better. Other food for thought. In Slack vs Microsoft Teams, some argue that Slack is significantly better than Teams but discount that Teams has a full product line for organizations to take advantage of. I would argue that is not anti-competitive.. instead it’s a good product offering. It’s not a lose-lose situation for Slack either. There are nice ways to improve their product offering without taking a similar weight to maintaining M$ Office/Excel and such.

llboston 6y ago

Wechat has added a TikTok like feature this year as well and it's doing pretty well.

Fjolsvith 6y ago
Yet Wechat faces a ban too, right?

sjg007 6y ago

Yep. I agree it's a dud.

jdpigeon 6y ago

I find this an uplifting reminder that it's still possible for competition to happen in the world of social media.

zalkota 6y ago

Competition is good, get used to it.

sushid 6y ago
Did you read the article? The competition sucks. FB literally has government intervention on it's side and it can't pump our Reels reasonably.

Fjolsvith 6y ago

If TikTok isn't allowed in the US, couldn't someone make an exact clone? Or would copyright law prevent it?