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Unfortunately, for me its a catch22 situation. I hate firefox because its slow, and love/depend on firefox, because of firebug (which apparently makes firefox s

Unfortunately, for me its a catch22 situation. I hate firefox because its slow, and love/depend on firefox, because of firebug (which apparently makes firefox slow.)

meric 16y ago
Have you tried Chrome's inspect element?
- random42 16y ago
  I use firebug to trace the HTTP requests, mainly. I know there are alternatives (for both Chrome and Firefox), but none of them compare to firebug. May be its because of my comfort/acquaintance level with firebug.
  - nolok 16y ago
    Used to think like you, but chrome's network tab (in the developer tools) has really come a long way
    - random42 16y ago
      You are probably correct. But you know, dev. tools are like IDEs/Editors. Once you get settled with one, there is a level of comfort with the tool, you dont get with others.
  - oh_no_my_eyes 16y ago
    if were going to talk about HTTP monitor alternatives please dont forget to talk about Charles. In many ways i prefer it to built in browser monitors because it is designed to capture any requests regardless of source.
cb33 16y ago
Chrome and Opera have a Firebug alternative built into them.
sid0 16y ago
Use multiple profiles, one for everyday browsing and one for Firebug.
- random42 16y ago
  Thats what I do (well, sort of). just that I have to keep another browser installed. --Written at my Google Chrome.
catshirt 16y ago
i resisted switching to chrome for months because i thought the chrome inspector was inferior to firebug, but i got used to it after forcing myself to switch primarily to chrome. now i find it's actually superior in many ways.
- ramanujan 16y ago
  Indeed. Little things like proper emacs keybindings in the JS terminal (Ctrl-P for previous line = lifesaver!) make Chrome's inspector preferable. Haven't needed to go back except for the YSlow/Firebug integration [probably a Chrome plugin for that as well].
  - catshirt 16y ago
    from a brief observation, the tests in the "audits" tab seem to follow rules very similar to yslow.
  - HaloZero 16y ago
    FireQuery is the only thing in Firebug that I can't seem to get in Chrome.
    - masklinn 16y ago
      Firequery, YSlow, or more generally any Firebug extension not built into the Webkit Developer Tools. Also, proper stack traces.
      - JonnieCache 16y ago
        YSlow was recently released in chrome flavour: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/ninejjcohidippngpapiilnmkgllmakh https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/ninejjcohidippng...
      - abp 16y ago
        Google Page Speed? http://code.google.com/speed/page-speed/download.html http://code.google.com/speed/page-speed/download.html
Luyt 16y ago
I gladly take the hit that FireBug causes, same reason. The slightly longer startup time doesn't bother me (yet). Also, I can't stand webbrowsing on an installation which doesn't have some form of adblocking. What a difference! I find ads horribly distracting, especially when they have flashing animations.
lloeki 16y ago
Not only does it slow down Fx start up times, but also new window creation times, even when it's not active ('off' state). Disabling it completely in add-ons restores performance. On my Mac this means seemingly instant vs noticeable delay, and that bothers me.

Unfortunately, for me its a catch22 situation. I hate firefox because its slow, and love/depend on firefox, because of firebug (which apparently makes firefox slow.)

meric 16y ago

Have you tried Chrome's inspect element?

random42 16y ago
I use firebug to trace the HTTP requests, mainly. I know there are alternatives (for both Chrome and Firefox), but none of them compare to firebug. May be its because of my comfort/acquaintance level with firebug.
- nolok 16y ago
  Used to think like you, but chrome's network tab (in the developer tools) has really come a long way
  - random42 16y ago
    You are probably correct. But you know, dev. tools are like IDEs/Editors. Once you get settled with one, there is a level of comfort with the tool, you dont get with others.
- oh_no_my_eyes 16y ago
  if were going to talk about HTTP monitor alternatives please dont forget to talk about Charles. In many ways i prefer it to built in browser monitors because it is designed to capture any requests regardless of source.

cb33 16y ago

Chrome and Opera have a Firebug alternative built into them.

sid0 16y ago

Use multiple profiles, one for everyday browsing and one for Firebug.

random42 16y ago
Thats what I do (well, sort of). just that I have to keep another browser installed. --Written at my Google Chrome.

catshirt 16y ago

i resisted switching to chrome for months because i thought the chrome inspector was inferior to firebug, but i got used to it after forcing myself to switch primarily to chrome. now i find it's actually superior in many ways.

ramanujan 16y ago
Indeed. Little things like proper emacs keybindings in the JS terminal (Ctrl-P for previous line = lifesaver!) make Chrome's inspector preferable. Haven't needed to go back except for the YSlow/Firebug integration [probably a Chrome plugin for that as well].
- catshirt 16y ago
  from a brief observation, the tests in the "audits" tab seem to follow rules very similar to yslow.
- HaloZero 16y ago
  FireQuery is the only thing in Firebug that I can't seem to get in Chrome.
  - masklinn 16y ago
    Firequery, YSlow, or more generally any Firebug extension not built into the Webkit Developer Tools. Also, proper stack traces.
    - JonnieCache 16y ago
      YSlow was recently released in chrome flavour: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/ninejjcohidippngpapiilnmkgllmakh https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/ninejjcohidippng...
    - abp 16y ago
      Google Page Speed? http://code.google.com/speed/page-speed/download.html http://code.google.com/speed/page-speed/download.html

Luyt 16y ago

I gladly take the hit that FireBug causes, same reason. The slightly longer startup time doesn't bother me (yet). Also, I can't stand webbrowsing on an installation which doesn't have some form of adblocking. What a difference! I find ads horribly distracting, especially when they have flashing animations.

lloeki 16y ago

Not only does it slow down Fx start up times, but also new window creation times, even when it's not active ('off' state). Disabling it completely in add-ons restores performance. On my Mac this means seemingly instant vs noticeable delay, and that bothers me.