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All the existing VPN providers are shady. I'd much sooner trust one from Mozilla. I don't think this is a priori a bad market for them to get into at all. It co

All the existing VPN providers are shady. I'd much sooner trust one from Mozilla. I don't think this is a priori a bad market for them to get into at all. It could even be a decent money maker for them, especially with seamless integration into Firefox. Unlike browsers, people are willing to pay for VPNs, so there's a good potential additional revenue source there.

martin_a 6y ago
Yeah, so just get your own VPN up and running in half an hour. Invite your family to use it, too. That's probably around 5-10 $/month with some cloud VPS thingy for everybody in your house. Did it myself, combined with a PiHole, and it worked like a charm. In regards of trust: Mozilla is just another big corporation, a VPN from some other big tech company (one that isn't into advertising - how about Apple?) would just be as trustworthy.
- CydeWeys 6y ago
  (1) Where is your Internet traffic actually hitting the Internet? Is it emanating from your house? If so, that's not why most people get VPNs. If not, how many different countries can your endpoint be located in? Again, if you can't choose from a large list of arbitrary countries, then this doesn't satisfy many people's VPN use case. (2) You are assuming a technical level of competence that most people don't have. Even if they do, they often would rather just pay for something simple that works rather than have yet another thing to maintain. (3) Yeah, Apple would be as trustworthy to most people. But they aren't doing it. A service that doesn't exist isn't a real competitor. I think there's a real potential in this space for a non-shady company, and Mozilla seems like the best candidate.
gmb2k1 6y ago
From my understanding Mozilla VPN is just rebranded mullvad VPN. So what benefit do you get by purchasing VPN access from Mozilla vs. directly from mullvad? I don´t see any from a security/trust perspective. Also everyone is writing Mozilla wrong around here. It´s not Mozilla. They changed it to Moz://a. How much did that rebranding cost? Was that money well spent? So many bad decisions.

martin_a 6y ago

Yeah, so just get your own VPN up and running in half an hour. Invite your family to use it, too. That's probably around 5-10 $/month with some cloud VPS thingy for everybody in your house. Did it myself, combined with a PiHole, and it worked like a charm. In regards of trust: Mozilla is just another big corporation, a VPN from some other big tech company (one that isn't into advertising - how about Apple?) would just be as trustworthy.

CydeWeys 6y ago
(1) Where is your Internet traffic actually hitting the Internet? Is it emanating from your house? If so, that's not why most people get VPNs. If not, how many different countries can your endpoint be located in? Again, if you can't choose from a large list of arbitrary countries, then this doesn't satisfy many people's VPN use case. (2) You are assuming a technical level of competence that most people don't have. Even if they do, they often would rather just pay for something simple that works rather than have yet another thing to maintain. (3) Yeah, Apple would be as trustworthy to most people. But they aren't doing it. A service that doesn't exist isn't a real competitor. I think there's a real potential in this space for a non-shady company, and Mozilla seems like the best candidate.

gmb2k1 6y ago

From my understanding Mozilla VPN is just rebranded mullvad VPN. So what benefit do you get by purchasing VPN access from Mozilla vs. directly from mullvad? I don´t see any from a security/trust perspective. Also everyone is writing Mozilla wrong around here. It´s not Mozilla. They changed it to Moz://a. How much did that rebranding cost? Was that money well spent? So many bad decisions.