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I'm not a doctor but I've read a few articles on vitamin D. > how do bodies naturally/organically generate vitamin D Avoiding the biochemistry details, vitami
by bXVsbGVy 6y ago
I'm not a doctor but I've read a few articles on vitamin D.
> how do bodies naturally/organically generate vitamin D
Avoiding the biochemistry details, vitamin D is produced exposing skin to 280-315 nm (short UVB) radiation [1].
> I surf 5 days a week with sunscreen and go for walks regularly. Will I have enough vitamin D or should I supplement?
The UV radiation depends on [1]:
Seasons
Time of the day
Latitude
Altitude
Ozone
Aerosol and pollution
The production of Vitamin D depends on physiological factors such [2]:
Age
Skin type
Fat absorption
Obesity
And, of course, the amount of exposed skin and sun sunscreen usage.
According to [2], the required time for a fair skinned Australian achieve "synthesis of 1000 IU of vitamin D with one side of the hands, arms and neck (11% of the body) exposed to the sun (0.455 MED)" on winter at a few AUS cities:
Darwin: 8 min
Townsville: 11 min
Brisbane: 17 min
Perth: 17 min
Sidney: 9 min
Adelaide: 32 min
Melbourne 43 min
For more details check [2].
A note about sunscreen:
The most common screening agent and their attenuation/absorbance spectrum can be seen on [3, 4]. Note: Only a few of them absorbs UVA radiation, and most of them have downside:
- Avobenzone: is not photostable, it degrades when exposed to the sun. Figure [5 Fig.3 a] compares the degradation with and without glutatione to stabilize (note: glu has a sulfurs smells and is expensive). Another alternative is ubiquinone [6] (also expensive). In pratice they are stabilized with octocrylene and bemo-trizinol.
- Menthyl anthranilate: Wikipedia article has one line. Found only 2 products with this sunscreen.
- Oxybenzone: Banned in few place. It is "detected in nearly every American", "Weak estrogen, moderate anti-androgen; associated with altered birth weight in human studies" [7].
- Zn/Ti Oxide: White cast. Nano sized particle can harm marine life [8], offer poor UVA protection [9] and can cause lung damage when inhaled [9].
In summary. Sunscreen works better at blocking the spectrum needed to produce vitamin D (UVB) than the spectrum that penetrate deeper and does most DNA damage (UVA).
I've been looking for an UVA blocker. But with no luck. I might get one of from a compounding pharmacy, but I reckon an commercial product would have better quality and price.
[1] https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=9709864645088550922 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=97098646450885509...
[2] https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=10953625923154745587 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=10953625923154745...
[3] http://www.brynmawrdermatology.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/c58be9ca65b2fbc14d13947b6c6be676.jpg http://www.brynmawrdermatology.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/0...
[4] https://i.redd.it/kr2knqhn88ey.png https://i.redd.it/kr2knqhn88ey.png
[5] https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=18414347133842843143 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=18414347133842843...
[5 Fig 3] https://pubs.rsc.org/image/article/2019/PP/c8pp00343b/c8pp00343b-f3_hi-res.gif https://pubs.rsc.org/image/article/2019/PP/c8pp00343b/c8pp00...
[6]https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=3949939436296520932 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=39499394362965209...
[7] https://www.ewg.org/sunscreen/report/the-trouble-with-sunscreen-chemicals/ https://www.ewg.org/sunscreen/report/the-trouble-with-sunscr...
[8] https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/news/sunscreen-corals.html https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/news/sunscreen-corals.html
[9] https://www.ewg.org/sunscreen/report/the-trouble-with-sunscreen-chemicals/ https://www.ewg.org/sunscreen/report/the-trouble-with-sunscr...
- LoveMortuus 6y ago>Avoiding the biochemistry details, vitamin D is produced exposing skin to 280-315 nm (short UVB) radiation. Could we then just have a bracelet that had a diode that emits that specific wavelength of light and that way have our body constantly produce vitamin D?
- bXVsbGVy 6y agoThe UVB radiation also does DNA damage, causes redness and tans. Exposing a small area to large cumulative radiation doesn't sound like a good idea. I don't know if this would be physiological possible. But you are onto something. Since we spend most of the day inside, maybe installing a DLP projector* with UVB light over the monitor could provide an optimal amount of radiation. The DLP could be used to avoid the eye area. By the way, russia had a full body approach: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-of-the-day/2009/10/ultraviolet-bath-mcnally-pod/ https://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-of-the-... * I'm not sure if DLP mirrors reflects UVB.
- LoveMortuus 6y agoI guess if we had light bulbs that emited that light it could provide the normal amount of exposure that's needed, or even adjustable to suit your needs, quite in interesting idea indeed!
- 1996 6y ago> I've been looking for an UVA blocker. But with no luck. You must not have searched much: "Tinosorb S and Tinosorb M UVA filters, developed by BASF, appear to be much stronger and less affected by exposure to light than avobenzone" [1] > I might get one of from a compounding pharmacy, but I reckon an commercial product would have better quality and price. Blame the FDA, and stop caring by ordering EU, Korean or Japanese sunscreen from amazon.com [1] https://www.ewg.org/sunscreen/report/does-europe-have-better-sunscreens/ https://www.ewg.org/sunscreen/report/does-europe-have-better...