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I'm a bit surprised to see so much opposition to vaccination here on HN, I would have thought that this would be a very pro-science and pro-vaccination crowd.
by Nitrolo 6y ago
I'm a bit surprised to see so much opposition to vaccination here on HN, I would have thought that this would be a very pro-science and pro-vaccination crowd.
As far as my understanding goes, herd immunity is not a real alternative to vaccinations. Herd immunity means that a very large percentage of the population, spread evenly across every community, would have to be infected and recover, another commenter cited a source estimating between 50% and 80%[0].
This means getting basically everybody infected, the reason a vaccine would be necessary is that we don't want everybody to get infected because it carries significant risks to health and life with it.
Also the timeframe needed to reach such high percentages of immunity would be very long. Looking at the US, if you assume a continued infection rate of 50 000 new infections each day (much more would probably mean overwhelming hospital capacities) it would take 8 years just to reach the 50% threshold, 13 years to reach 80%.
Lot of time and suffering saved by going the vaccine route.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity#Mechanics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity#Mechanics
- NoOneNew 6y agoNot opposed to vaccines. Opposed to rushed, poorly tested, politicized pharmaceuticals. Poorly tested drugs have severe consequences. Just because you WANT a miracle, doesn't mean the first person offering one will actually help.
- cauliflower99 6y agoHear hear!
- Nitrolo 6y agoFair enough, of course any vaccine that does get distributed to billions of people should be tested very, very carefully. Chances are the first option might not be the best one (see the vaccine that's being rolled out in Russia). But the article is talking about the logistics of distributing an effective vaccine, once it's found, not distributing the first best thing someone happens to come up with. It seems pretty likely that at some point a safe and effective vaccine will be found. Should that vaccine not be distributed widely?
- NoOneNew 6y agoDidn't reply to the article. I replied to a comment talking about why the comments are against a vaccine in the first place.