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You mean consequences outside of drowning in their own fluids?

chrisco255 6y ago
Look at the death rates for people under 45...it's like 1 in 10,000. In some cities and for certain age brackets, you're more likely to be murdered or commit suicide than to die from Covid. The car accident fatality rate is roughly 1 in 10,000.
- noir_lord 6y ago
  It's not just the death rate. It's long term physical damage even if you survive.
  - chrisco255 6y ago
    Vast majority of people who contract this illness don't even show symptoms at all. That's what's weird about this disease. It seems to affect the elderly disproportionately but for younger people and people with no risk factors, the risk is exceedingly low that one will experience SARS at all.
    - bkor 6y ago
      If you're not affected by covid-19 but something else you'll still have a problem if the hospital is overwhelmed due to covid-19. I've noticed various countries in Europe where they delayed various hospitalizations. Similarly, various people avoided going to a hospital while they usually would go. How many people will have permanent problems (despite surviving) due to covid-19 is still unknown AFAIK.
      - xlm1717 6y ago
        Did they delay or avoid hospitalization because the hospitals are overwhelmed, or because treatments/diagnostics to their conditions were deemed non-essential or elective?
  - NoOneNew 6y ago
    Yea, sorry, but I have to call anecdotal bs on these claims. Every person in the news I've seen that claims long term problems are obese individuals looking to make excuses. Other "damages" are so random and all over the place, it smells like correlation rather than causation. You know when someone might say they have head lice and your head gets all itchy suddenly, then you think you might have lice too. Theres a whole lot of that going on when it comes to relating other health problems to Covid. Dont forget, it's super sexy right now to be a covid survivor. People get a whole lot of attention for it. For a forum that loves to call out anecdotal bias all the time, when it comes to Covid, everyone here jumps on the fear bandwagon of the news and on really poorly done studies with only a few dozen participants or epidemiologies.
    - moistly 6y ago
      > Every person in the news I've seen that claims long term problems are obese individuals looking to make excuses. You should watch a more diverse media, then, because there are more than a few fabulously fit people who are no longer able to compete, or even continue, their sport.
      - NoOneNew 6y ago
        Anecdotal and it sounds more like they have tiny heart syndrome flaring up. Part B, again, it's sexy to "Oh my goodness, my life is so difficult now since I survived covid. Look at me, I'm a covid survivor, my life is so altered." It's all cherry picked cases that the media are throwing out there. Cherry picked anecdotes, something in any other HN topic would get you lambasted.
        moistly 6y ago
        Guess my response to all that is to roll my eyes and walk away. Cynicism is boring.
        greenbush 6y ago
        Here are some first-person stories of runners who survived covid with lasting effects: https://www.reddit.com/r/Garmin/comments/i9n1pa/first_run_postcovid_compared_to_last_run_precovid/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Garmin/comments/i9n1pa/first_run_po...
Blahagun 6y ago
What are you talking about? What drowning? The clinical picture hasn't been that different compared to previous years with outbreaks of respiratory illnesses. In fact in some countries the death rates have actually been lower. The only reason this year we are talking about it is because for some reason it became a huge media thing. There was no reason previous years to not talk about respiratory illnesses. They have always been serious thing and people are dying each year from them. They have always been dangerous to elderly people and people with other illnesses. I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe all of a sudden.
- tralarpa 6y ago
  > The only reason this year we are talking about it is because for some reason it became a huge media thing Well, something seems to be different this year: https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/ https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/

Look at the death rates for people under 45...it's like 1 in 10,000. In some cities and for certain age brackets, you're more likely to be murdered or commit suicide than to die from Covid. The car accident fatality rate is roughly 1 in 10,000.

noir_lord 6y ago
It's not just the death rate. It's long term physical damage even if you survive.
- chrisco255 6y ago
  Vast majority of people who contract this illness don't even show symptoms at all. That's what's weird about this disease. It seems to affect the elderly disproportionately but for younger people and people with no risk factors, the risk is exceedingly low that one will experience SARS at all.
  - bkor 6y ago
    If you're not affected by covid-19 but something else you'll still have a problem if the hospital is overwhelmed due to covid-19. I've noticed various countries in Europe where they delayed various hospitalizations. Similarly, various people avoided going to a hospital while they usually would go. How many people will have permanent problems (despite surviving) due to covid-19 is still unknown AFAIK.
    - xlm1717 6y ago
      Did they delay or avoid hospitalization because the hospitals are overwhelmed, or because treatments/diagnostics to their conditions were deemed non-essential or elective?
- NoOneNew 6y ago
  Yea, sorry, but I have to call anecdotal bs on these claims. Every person in the news I've seen that claims long term problems are obese individuals looking to make excuses. Other "damages" are so random and all over the place, it smells like correlation rather than causation. You know when someone might say they have head lice and your head gets all itchy suddenly, then you think you might have lice too. Theres a whole lot of that going on when it comes to relating other health problems to Covid. Dont forget, it's super sexy right now to be a covid survivor. People get a whole lot of attention for it. For a forum that loves to call out anecdotal bias all the time, when it comes to Covid, everyone here jumps on the fear bandwagon of the news and on really poorly done studies with only a few dozen participants or epidemiologies.
  - moistly 6y ago
    > Every person in the news I've seen that claims long term problems are obese individuals looking to make excuses. You should watch a more diverse media, then, because there are more than a few fabulously fit people who are no longer able to compete, or even continue, their sport.
    - NoOneNew 6y ago
      Anecdotal and it sounds more like they have tiny heart syndrome flaring up. Part B, again, it's sexy to "Oh my goodness, my life is so difficult now since I survived covid. Look at me, I'm a covid survivor, my life is so altered." It's all cherry picked cases that the media are throwing out there. Cherry picked anecdotes, something in any other HN topic would get you lambasted.
      - moistly 6y ago
        Guess my response to all that is to roll my eyes and walk away. Cynicism is boring.
      - greenbush 6y ago
        Here are some first-person stories of runners who survived covid with lasting effects: https://www.reddit.com/r/Garmin/comments/i9n1pa/first_run_postcovid_compared_to_last_run_precovid/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Garmin/comments/i9n1pa/first_run_po...

Blahagun 6y ago

What are you talking about? What drowning? The clinical picture hasn't been that different compared to previous years with outbreaks of respiratory illnesses. In fact in some countries the death rates have actually been lower. The only reason this year we are talking about it is because for some reason it became a huge media thing. There was no reason previous years to not talk about respiratory illnesses. They have always been serious thing and people are dying each year from them. They have always been dangerous to elderly people and people with other illnesses. I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe all of a sudden.

tralarpa 6y ago
> The only reason this year we are talking about it is because for some reason it became a huge media thing Well, something seems to be different this year: https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/ https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/