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Can you provide some evidence for these claims?

panny 6y ago
Snowden docs have been available for years. ShadowBrokers. Just this week a 20GB dump of private Intel source was dumped with backdoors included. It is beyond a reasonable doubt that x86 hardware has NSA backdoors in it. You're now sitting on a time bomb. Remember when the NSA tools were dumped with their secret Windows exploits? WannaCry? North Korea picked that up and launched ransomware attacks. That's the sort of thing that's going to happen again with the newly published Intel backdoors. Just wait and see. Tim Cook is 100% vindicated this week about not adding intentional iPhone backdoors.
- j88439h84 6y ago
  I don't remember WiFi or CPU backdoors in Snowden, ShadowBrokers, or Intel 2020. Unless by "backdoor" you just mean NSA holds zero days on various important technologies, which is reasonably likely given EternalBlue. Is that what you mean?
  - DarthGhandi 6y ago
    They don't need 0days when they can just easily corrupt the standards process. They've been doing it everywhere. The Wifi Alliance has made some heinously bad choices that if you attributed to incompetence simply make no sense, they treat anyone who questions them with disdain and shoots down attempts to fix the mess they make. WPA3 was hilariously broken a month after getting rolled out.
    - j88439h84 6y ago
      TIL, any recommended reading on this?
      - monocasa 6y ago
        Here's a good overview https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/04/serious-flaws-leave-wpa3-vulnerable-to-hacks-that-steal-wi-fi-passwords/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/04/serio...
- ciarannolan 6y ago
  > Just this week a 20GB dump of private Intel source was dumped with backdoors included. > That's the sort of thing that's going to happen again with the newly published Intel backdoors. This is not even remotely true. You have to read more than just the headlines. > Anyone on WiFi AC or up are backdoored right now by NSA. All of them are compromised, no doubt in my mind. All the LTE. All the x86 hardware on the market. All of it. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Please provide some.
  - justanotheranon 6y ago
    https://theintercept.com/2016/08/19/the-nsa-was-hacked-snowden-documents-confirm/ https://theintercept.com/2016/08/19/the-nsa-was-hacked-snowd... there is proof that NSA has been mass hacking WiFi since at least 2005. that batch of Snowden leaks came out one week after the Shadowbroker's first leak. NSA programs SECONDDATE and BADDECISION were used to mass hack into WiFi routers in Iraq in 2005-2007. note the slides say NSA breached the WiFi routers of EVERY INTERNET CAFE IN IRAQ. that is the Collect-It-All scale we expect from NSA. also note, NSA did this FROM THE SKY! SECONDDATE is a sensor installed in Cessna and low flying planes. NSA flew over every WiFi hotspot of every Internet cafe in Iraq and deployed the BADDECISION exploit to install implants on the WiFi routers to then mass surveil everyone. no futher leaks about BADDECISION have come out. we dont know if it is a protocol attack or crypto exploit. we dont know if WiFi is still vulnerable to BADDECISION. how much do you want to bet that NSA only used SECONDDATE and BADDECISION in Iraq and NOT back here at home in America? how much would you bet that NSA is NOT bulk hacking WiFi routers of ENTIRE US CITIES FROM THE AIR? consider how much cheaper and easier that would be now in 2020 compared to 2005?
    - ciarannolan 6y ago
      Interesting article, but I think you're way over drawing your conclusions. > how much would you bet that NSA is NOT bulk hacking WiFi routers of ENTIRE US CITIES FROM THE AIR? I would bet very good money that they are not doing this. If SECONDDATE has been around since 2005, and they are bulk installing it on millions of routers in the US, where are the people coming out saying "I found some NSA shit on my router"? Is there a _single_ example to support this?

Snowden docs have been available for years. ShadowBrokers. Just this week a 20GB dump of private Intel source was dumped with backdoors included. It is beyond a reasonable doubt that x86 hardware has NSA backdoors in it. You're now sitting on a time bomb. Remember when the NSA tools were dumped with their secret Windows exploits? WannaCry? North Korea picked that up and launched ransomware attacks. That's the sort of thing that's going to happen again with the newly published Intel backdoors. Just wait and see. Tim Cook is 100% vindicated this week about not adding intentional iPhone backdoors.

j88439h84 6y ago
I don't remember WiFi or CPU backdoors in Snowden, ShadowBrokers, or Intel 2020. Unless by "backdoor" you just mean NSA holds zero days on various important technologies, which is reasonably likely given EternalBlue. Is that what you mean?
- DarthGhandi 6y ago
  They don't need 0days when they can just easily corrupt the standards process. They've been doing it everywhere. The Wifi Alliance has made some heinously bad choices that if you attributed to incompetence simply make no sense, they treat anyone who questions them with disdain and shoots down attempts to fix the mess they make. WPA3 was hilariously broken a month after getting rolled out.
  - j88439h84 6y ago
    TIL, any recommended reading on this?
    - monocasa 6y ago
      Here's a good overview https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/04/serious-flaws-leave-wpa3-vulnerable-to-hacks-that-steal-wi-fi-passwords/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/04/serio...
ciarannolan 6y ago
> Just this week a 20GB dump of private Intel source was dumped with backdoors included. > That's the sort of thing that's going to happen again with the newly published Intel backdoors. This is not even remotely true. You have to read more than just the headlines. > Anyone on WiFi AC or up are backdoored right now by NSA. All of them are compromised, no doubt in my mind. All the LTE. All the x86 hardware on the market. All of it. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Please provide some.
- justanotheranon 6y ago
  https://theintercept.com/2016/08/19/the-nsa-was-hacked-snowden-documents-confirm/ https://theintercept.com/2016/08/19/the-nsa-was-hacked-snowd... there is proof that NSA has been mass hacking WiFi since at least 2005. that batch of Snowden leaks came out one week after the Shadowbroker's first leak. NSA programs SECONDDATE and BADDECISION were used to mass hack into WiFi routers in Iraq in 2005-2007. note the slides say NSA breached the WiFi routers of EVERY INTERNET CAFE IN IRAQ. that is the Collect-It-All scale we expect from NSA. also note, NSA did this FROM THE SKY! SECONDDATE is a sensor installed in Cessna and low flying planes. NSA flew over every WiFi hotspot of every Internet cafe in Iraq and deployed the BADDECISION exploit to install implants on the WiFi routers to then mass surveil everyone. no futher leaks about BADDECISION have come out. we dont know if it is a protocol attack or crypto exploit. we dont know if WiFi is still vulnerable to BADDECISION. how much do you want to bet that NSA only used SECONDDATE and BADDECISION in Iraq and NOT back here at home in America? how much would you bet that NSA is NOT bulk hacking WiFi routers of ENTIRE US CITIES FROM THE AIR? consider how much cheaper and easier that would be now in 2020 compared to 2005?
  - ciarannolan 6y ago
    Interesting article, but I think you're way over drawing your conclusions. > how much would you bet that NSA is NOT bulk hacking WiFi routers of ENTIRE US CITIES FROM THE AIR? I would bet very good money that they are not doing this. If SECONDDATE has been around since 2005, and they are bulk installing it on millions of routers in the US, where are the people coming out saying "I found some NSA shit on my router"? Is there a _single_ example to support this?