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It was not abandoned at the side of the road. It was deliberately placed there to be picked up by a designated waste hauling service provider.

paganel 6y ago
I did the same thing with a piece of cardboard in my city just yesterday, had someone came in order to pick it up before the hauling service provider's designated hours I wouldn't have regarded that as theft. And I say that as technically still the owner of said piece of cardboard (until who ever came first to pick it up took it from the side of the street).
- gamblor956 6y ago
  Good for you. You don't get to make that decision for everyone else.
  - danShumway 6y ago
    But... it doesn't sound like everyone else has a problem with this either. > "And theft is hardly ever reported by companies, because why would they? If magic pixies have nicked their waste cardboard then it means they don't have to pay a firm like mine to come and pick it up. So they are going to keep schtum [quiet]." > This is very much the opinion of the shopkeeper we spoke to in Madrid. One could flip this around. Good for you if you want to waste police resources guarding your trash bins, but why should you get to make that decision for the other shop keepers in Madrid? It's one thing for a city to go after criminals. It's another thing for the city to complain that its citizens aren't doing a good enough job helping enforce the laws that they don't care about. For sure, if someone wants to set up security cameras by their trash bin and report thefts, go wild. But I'm just having a hard time getting worked up about something where the citizens themselves don't seem to be upset.
JackFr 6y ago
If I intentionally put it in a non-official purple bin, to be picked up by the Cardboard Racket, who are throwing me a couple of bucks a month to do it, are the Cardboard Racket stealing anymore?
- PJDK 6y ago
  No - but you are fly tipping. You could arrange for them to come to your property and go through all your bins if you wanted to...

paganel 6y ago

I did the same thing with a piece of cardboard in my city just yesterday, had someone came in order to pick it up before the hauling service provider's designated hours I wouldn't have regarded that as theft. And I say that as technically still the owner of said piece of cardboard (until who ever came first to pick it up took it from the side of the street).

gamblor956 6y ago
Good for you. You don't get to make that decision for everyone else.
- danShumway 6y ago
  But... it doesn't sound like everyone else has a problem with this either. > "And theft is hardly ever reported by companies, because why would they? If magic pixies have nicked their waste cardboard then it means they don't have to pay a firm like mine to come and pick it up. So they are going to keep schtum [quiet]." > This is very much the opinion of the shopkeeper we spoke to in Madrid. One could flip this around. Good for you if you want to waste police resources guarding your trash bins, but why should you get to make that decision for the other shop keepers in Madrid? It's one thing for a city to go after criminals. It's another thing for the city to complain that its citizens aren't doing a good enough job helping enforce the laws that they don't care about. For sure, if someone wants to set up security cameras by their trash bin and report thefts, go wild. But I'm just having a hard time getting worked up about something where the citizens themselves don't seem to be upset.

JackFr 6y ago

If I intentionally put it in a non-official purple bin, to be picked up by the Cardboard Racket, who are throwing me a couple of bucks a month to do it, are the Cardboard Racket stealing anymore?

PJDK 6y ago
No - but you are fly tipping. You could arrange for them to come to your property and go through all your bins if you wanted to...