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i speak fluent proper moscow-russian, as i was born there. the way the redneck farmers speak sounds the same as belarus and ukrainian. in fact, the russian redn

i speak fluent proper moscow-russian, as i was born there. the way the redneck farmers speak sounds the same as belarus and ukrainian. in fact, the russian rednecks use many ukrainian words, not just pronounciation. hence redneck russian. it literally sounds like they talk in a russian village. same as to the french (and me) canadian french sounds uneducated. same as canadian english sounds bad, eh? the other languages you list, outside of your cherrypicked examples, are very different. how do i know? with ukrainian and belorussian, i can just have a coversation in the language. i take a russian word and i say it with a ukrainian accent -they understand me, and i fully understand them. in the ones you list, it's not canadian french vs france french. it's like spanish vs french. i can kinda understand the general idea of what they're saying, if i focus. they sound foreign -like when i hear spanish, only knowing french. it's southern china vs redneck north china mandarin. your examples are mandarin vs cantonese. and while most of ukraine and belarus don't even speak their own language, when they do it's not clean. they speak суржик, which is a mix of russian and their language. so it literally is bastardised russian. and btw, i lived in kiev for almost 2 years, and have visited every country in europe. i really do know what i'm talking about 1st hand. so i didn't watch your youtube video. it would be like you posting a link explaining why water is dry.

sergeykish 6y ago
I believed same narrative as you, I was born near border (native Russian speaker) and we do have суржик, never liked it. Later I've traveled to Ukrainian Carpathians, they have beautiful language there, I liked it and learned it. When I've been in Europe it was Ukrainian which was close to these languages, not Russian. Sure people understand when you speak Russian with Ukrainian accent - they speak Russian, they would understand without accent too. They speak Russian in Croatia and Slovak too - not a lot, but some do, it proves nothing. The truth is language division is political, it is dialects all around. You believe in narrative that suits Russia politics. But the story works both ways - one can argue that Russian is redneck language, not a proper Kievan Rus descendant, its people can't even communicate with other Slavs. I've been to Moscow, funny accent. I've been to Russian village (under Kursk), they speak Russian there, as Ukrainian speaker I should know. So you know 1st hand, I know 1st hand, how about I don't say shit about Russian and you don't say shit about Belarusian and Ukrainian?
bitcurious 6y ago
> i take a russian word and i say it with a ukrainian accent -they understand me, and i fully understand them. You aren't speaking Ukrainian, you are speaking a creole, surzhik, with people that aren't obnoxious enough to point out your mistakes. It's nothing to be ashamed of, but nothing to draw conclusions from either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surzhyk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surzhyk
- dongvsascript 6y ago
  so, to fit your narrative you're purposely ignoring the second part of that same sentence where i state i can fully understand ukrainian, yet not croatian and the other languages listed, and that you can't turn russian into serbian like you can with ukrainian because it's too different a language. you then tell me i'm speaking surzhyk, which i specifically said is what is being spoken. then you give me a wiki link, so i can find out about the thing my entire post is about. the fact that you can make суржик out of russian with ukrainian and belorussian, yet you can't with the other languages listed. because they are very different languages. which exactly disputes the claim of op, that they're the same. bravo sir. fox news is now accepting applications, and they want you.

sergeykish 6y ago

I believed same narrative as you, I was born near border (native Russian speaker) and we do have суржик, never liked it. Later I've traveled to Ukrainian Carpathians, they have beautiful language there, I liked it and learned it. When I've been in Europe it was Ukrainian which was close to these languages, not Russian. Sure people understand when you speak Russian with Ukrainian accent - they speak Russian, they would understand without accent too. They speak Russian in Croatia and Slovak too - not a lot, but some do, it proves nothing. The truth is language division is political, it is dialects all around. You believe in narrative that suits Russia politics. But the story works both ways - one can argue that Russian is redneck language, not a proper Kievan Rus descendant, its people can't even communicate with other Slavs. I've been to Moscow, funny accent. I've been to Russian village (under Kursk), they speak Russian there, as Ukrainian speaker I should know. So you know 1st hand, I know 1st hand, how about I don't say shit about Russian and you don't say shit about Belarusian and Ukrainian?

bitcurious 6y ago

> i take a russian word and i say it with a ukrainian accent -they understand me, and i fully understand them. You aren't speaking Ukrainian, you are speaking a creole, surzhik, with people that aren't obnoxious enough to point out your mistakes. It's nothing to be ashamed of, but nothing to draw conclusions from either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surzhyk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surzhyk

dongvsascript 6y ago
so, to fit your narrative you're purposely ignoring the second part of that same sentence where i state i can fully understand ukrainian, yet not croatian and the other languages listed, and that you can't turn russian into serbian like you can with ukrainian because it's too different a language. you then tell me i'm speaking surzhyk, which i specifically said is what is being spoken. then you give me a wiki link, so i can find out about the thing my entire post is about. the fact that you can make суржик out of russian with ukrainian and belorussian, yet you can't with the other languages listed. because they are very different languages. which exactly disputes the claim of op, that they're the same. bravo sir. fox news is now accepting applications, and they want you.