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What about people working for companies who's policies dictate that certain actions must be done through some internet system (eg time clocks, payroll, scheduli

What about people working for companies who's policies dictate that certain actions must be done through some internet system (eg time clocks, payroll, scheduling, etc). It might be physically possible to ask someone else to do some of these things for one, but it also might not be allowed. EG if all time off requests including sick days have to be entered in a web scheduling system, then it may not be possible to just do the old "ask the boss for the day off" and have it not be considered an unexcused absence by corporate higher-ups.

parsimo2010 6y ago
If you're a remotely decent employee, your manager will figure out a workaround or help you get an exception to the policy. It's hard to find good help, and if you're fired because of a completely inflexible system where you have to clock in with an internet system, then you weren't really fired for the lack of internet, you were fired because management wanted an excuse to fire you.
- fragmede 6y ago
  For the segment of the workforce that we're taking about, there's no such thing as weekly 1:1's or quarterly skip level meetings (ie I scheduled a meeting with my bosses boss.) "Your manager" is overworked and underpaid, same as you, and has no such luxury, nor any real power. It's just not going to scale if every single one of their direct reports, out of dozens, suddenly needs to sign in by hand because the Internet is down. Kafka isn't relegated to Soviet fairy tales, even top performers get dinged for showing up minutes late. Why do you think the "set your own hours" aspect of being an Uber driver is so compelling? It's not because 100% of middle management are nice happy people who love their jobs. Be glad you've never had to work somewhere where you're disposable, and your boss is forced to fire you for reasons they don't even believe in, like being mere minutes late. If your shift starts at 7:30 AM, you have to be there at 7:00 AM to be in line to have punched into the time clock before it turns 7:30. Making it to work in time to stand in line for the time clock before 7:30 isn't good enough.

parsimo2010 6y ago

If you're a remotely decent employee, your manager will figure out a workaround or help you get an exception to the policy. It's hard to find good help, and if you're fired because of a completely inflexible system where you have to clock in with an internet system, then you weren't really fired for the lack of internet, you were fired because management wanted an excuse to fire you.

fragmede 6y ago
For the segment of the workforce that we're taking about, there's no such thing as weekly 1:1's or quarterly skip level meetings (ie I scheduled a meeting with my bosses boss.) "Your manager" is overworked and underpaid, same as you, and has no such luxury, nor any real power. It's just not going to scale if every single one of their direct reports, out of dozens, suddenly needs to sign in by hand because the Internet is down. Kafka isn't relegated to Soviet fairy tales, even top performers get dinged for showing up minutes late. Why do you think the "set your own hours" aspect of being an Uber driver is so compelling? It's not because 100% of middle management are nice happy people who love their jobs. Be glad you've never had to work somewhere where you're disposable, and your boss is forced to fire you for reasons they don't even believe in, like being mere minutes late. If your shift starts at 7:30 AM, you have to be there at 7:00 AM to be in line to have punched into the time clock before it turns 7:30. Making it to work in time to stand in line for the time clock before 7:30 isn't good enough.