There seem to be a fair number of programmers who are BOTH college/uni-educated AND learnt it all on their own. What I mean is one of their previous employers/c

There seem to be a fair number of programmers who are BOTH college/uni-educated AND learnt it all on their own. What I mean is one of their previous employers/clients (perhaps their first) have them on file as having some CS/SE credential, while others (including their current one) have them listed as self-educated. Perhaps they told one employer their major was computing, but their current client thinks their major was business. One way to recognize these frauds is whether they list their credentials online. They may write online that you don't need qualifications to be a good programmer, which is true, but they won't actually say they don't have any credentials because that's not what they've told their previous employers and they don't want to be exposed. When there's 2 people giving presentations, one lists their PhD from a certain university and the other only lists some IT groups they run, I know which one I'll pay more attention to.