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This article[0] talks about how locals were shooting at it, although it doesn't mention the berms (talking to the sheriff must not have worked out). I think a h
by Miraste 6y ago
This article[0] talks about how locals were shooting at it, although it doesn't mention the berms (talking to the sheriff must not have worked out). I think a hyperloop could avoid this problem by not locating in Louisiana.
[0] https://www.225batonrouge.com/article/good-vibrations https://www.225batonrouge.com/article/good-vibrations
- sudosysgen 6y agoWhat do you do when a terrorist shoots a hyperloop tube causing a pressure wave that will kill everyone inside?
- yellow_postit 6y agoYou avoid building it (above ground at least) in the first place
- sudosysgen 6y agoEven building it below ground doesn't work, they just have to punch a hole in the station while it is pressurized.
- nytgop77 6y agoHow much damage would a bullet hole actually do? If the hole stays of fixed diameter, its throughput would be small compared to the volume of the tube, so pressure would increase gradually. So, how feasible is it that hole would not increase? What hyperloop designs are there? 10 inch thick steel throughout whole length?
- sudosysgen 6y agoThe designs I've seen had very thin tubes. Certainly not anywhere close to 10 inch thick steel, no. The designs I've seen had thicknesses close to or under one inch. A 50 cal APDS bullet would punch clean through the first layer and would likely leave an inch thick hole, and would likely cause significant damage on the other side if not penetrate it outright. This is almost certainly sufficient to cause explosive pressurization, which would likely cause immediately more damage and eventually create a powerful shockwave that would destroy anything in the tube. Of course, a bomb next to the wall would be much worse. If it was a 10 inch thick steel tube, it would be much better, but also ten times more expensive, making it prohibitively expensive.
- ClumsyPilot 6y agoA digging / drilling accident, an earthquake or sinkhole. If we are still talking about terrorists, they grab a shovel?
- The_Double 6y agoWhat do you do when a terrorist places a derailing device [0] on a piece of rail track that will harm and potentially kill many people inside? [0]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derail
- marvin 6y agoYou never ever build railroads again, obviously, and deride everyone that plans building them.
- sudosysgen 6y agoDerailing a railroad is a complicated endeavor that will likely get detected and the train stopped, and even in the most catastrophic event only a very small fraction of the occupancy of one train will be killed. Whereas a catastrophic dépressurisation event on a hyperloop will assuredly kill everyone inside. The amount of energy stored in such a pressure differential is equivalent to many hundreds of tons of TNT. It's not comparable at all.
- nytgop77 6y agoDerailed train seems to injure most passangers, but kill only few of them [1] [2]. It would seem that hyperloop would be more similar to a plane - more deaths than injuries. Also damage to infrastructure, would be more than a few rails. (please educate me if I'm wrong) [1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Washington_train_derailment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Washington_train_derail... [2]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rail_accidents_(2010%E2%80%932019) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rail_accidents_(2010...
- liability 6y agoIf you derailed a train, you'd lose what, tens of millions of dollars worth of locomotives, cars, and maybe a mile of track? When a hypertunnel explosively pressurizes, chances are you'd lose tens of billions of dollars of tube, plus anything that was anywhere in it.
- stevehawk 6y agoWhat do you do when American citizens shoot at airplanes? Quit flying? Yesterday an Air Force helicopter was shot at and the pilot injured. Not to mention the number of citizens pointing lasers at cockpits. https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/virginia/military-helicopter-shot-at-emergency-landing-in-manassas/65-6c3e7a3d-be07-4622-b6fa-aac0d4a5cbcf https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/virginia/military-h... You can't refuse to do something just because you're scared of a few bad actors. Otherwise we have to stop making cars (they get driven into crowds), building tall buildings (they get bombed or have aircraft flown into them), drinking public water (they get threatened with poisoning attempts), blah blah blah.
- sudosysgen 6y agoWhen an airplane is shot at by a civilian, in 99.999% of cases there will be no big issues (read : multiple deaths). Making an entire transportation system with hundreds of thousands of people inside that can all be killed instantly by a single bullet or bomb is insane lunacy.