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> It does not strike me as a legitimate case to strip people of their human right to free agency and will by forcing people to do things they don't want to or m

by ytpete 6y ago

> It does not strike me as a legitimate case to strip people of their human right to free agency and will by forcing people to do things they don't want to or may even be dangerous But in a normal employer-employee relationship, this is totally typical. You can't sign up to be a firefighter but then refuse to go into burning buildings that you find too scary. You can't get a job as a developer and then refuse JIRA tickets you find boring, claiming that's your "human right." In those cases, and with Uber as well, your free agency is that you can quit the job if you don't like it. But you have no fundamental right to be retained as an employee or contractor while refusing to do parts of the job you'd signed onto. The employer has their own right to terminate you if so.

WrongThinkerNo5 6y ago
You can't seriously be suggesting that knowingly choosing to become a firefighter, where the main task is endangering yourself (for which people are also selected, as you have forgotten), or that not wanting to deal with boring JIRA tickets is the same thing as being sent to dangerous neighborhoods where you could very likely be assaulted and/or killed, when you don't have to because there are also other places where crime is not out of control and a real and measurable risk to one's life and safety does not exist? When you choose to become, e.g., an Uber driver, you are NOT primarily signing up to willingly expose yourself to risk to life and limb, like a soldier, firefighter, policeman. You have a very abusive mentality about that which seems more fitting for some industrial age foreman or something; "you don't want to risk cutting off your arm? You can quit, and dozens of others will replace you!" But I suspect you really don't realize that, because people like you that want to force others into unhealthy, unsafe, and dangerous situations, are usually the ones who live the most privileged, sheltered, and comfortable lives where the biggest risk they see is the possibility of eating non-organic produce.

by ytpete 6y ago

WrongThinkerNo5 6y ago

You can't seriously be suggesting that knowingly choosing to become a firefighter, where the main task is endangering yourself (for which people are also selected, as you have forgotten), or that not wanting to deal with boring JIRA tickets is the same thing as being sent to dangerous neighborhoods where you could very likely be assaulted and/or killed, when you don't have to because there are also other places where crime is not out of control and a real and measurable risk to one's life and safety does not exist? When you choose to become, e.g., an Uber driver, you are NOT primarily signing up to willingly expose yourself to risk to life and limb, like a soldier, firefighter, policeman. You have a very abusive mentality about that which seems more fitting for some industrial age foreman or something; "you don't want to risk cutting off your arm? You can quit, and dozens of others will replace you!" But I suspect you really don't realize that, because people like you that want to force others into unhealthy, unsafe, and dangerous situations, are usually the ones who live the most privileged, sheltered, and comfortable lives where the biggest risk they see is the possibility of eating non-organic produce.