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You do understand that women were not allowed to vote during the hatpin panic, right? Perhaps that fact will provide some context as to why women were stabbing

You do understand that women were not allowed to vote during the hatpin panic, right? Perhaps that fact will provide some context as to why women were stabbing men with hatpins for sexually assaulting them. They didn’t have the same rights that men did!

epicureanideal 6y ago
Yes, but that doesn't make it any more reasonable to beat someone in the face with an umbrella for saying something you don't like... Also, as a separate point, it was only in 1868 that all men were able to vote in the United States, although it seems most men could vote by the 1820s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_voting_rights_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_voting_rights_in_t... Would it have been acceptable for a non-property-holding white male in 1820 to beat another man with a stick if the other man offended him, on the basis of the first man lacking voting rights?
- perl4ever 6y ago
  >Would it have been acceptable for a non-property-holding white male in 1820 to beat another man with a stick Definitely if they were congressmen. https://newrepublic.com/article/151817/violence-broke-congress https://newrepublic.com/article/151817/violence-broke-congre...
- quickthrowman 6y ago
  Have you ever talked to a woman before? Because I’ve asked plenty about what being a woman is like with regards to harassment and unwanted attention from men, and what they described to me might surprise you.
- spanhandler 6y ago
  Hell I've seen women this century hit guys pretty hard just to say "hello" or because they disagree about where the guy wants to go eat or something else entirely trivial. Similar is all over TV, so common it passes below the level of notice most of the time. At least this wasn't just socially-acceptable casually-abusive battery and had a purpose. Go hatpin ladies.
- dmurray 6y ago
  > Would it have been acceptable for a non-property-holding white male in 1820 to beat another man with a stick if the other man offended him, on the basis of the first man lacking voting rights? If we're going to go for "all men", how about a felon or an immigrant attacking a proper citizen in 2020 on the same basis?

epicureanideal 6y ago

Yes, but that doesn't make it any more reasonable to beat someone in the face with an umbrella for saying something you don't like... Also, as a separate point, it was only in 1868 that all men were able to vote in the United States, although it seems most men could vote by the 1820s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_voting_rights_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_voting_rights_in_t... Would it have been acceptable for a non-property-holding white male in 1820 to beat another man with a stick if the other man offended him, on the basis of the first man lacking voting rights?

perl4ever 6y ago
>Would it have been acceptable for a non-property-holding white male in 1820 to beat another man with a stick Definitely if they were congressmen. https://newrepublic.com/article/151817/violence-broke-congress https://newrepublic.com/article/151817/violence-broke-congre...
quickthrowman 6y ago
Have you ever talked to a woman before? Because I’ve asked plenty about what being a woman is like with regards to harassment and unwanted attention from men, and what they described to me might surprise you.
spanhandler 6y ago
Hell I've seen women this century hit guys pretty hard just to say "hello" or because they disagree about where the guy wants to go eat or something else entirely trivial. Similar is all over TV, so common it passes below the level of notice most of the time. At least this wasn't just socially-acceptable casually-abusive battery and had a purpose. Go hatpin ladies.
dmurray 6y ago
> Would it have been acceptable for a non-property-holding white male in 1820 to beat another man with a stick if the other man offended him, on the basis of the first man lacking voting rights? If we're going to go for "all men", how about a felon or an immigrant attacking a proper citizen in 2020 on the same basis?