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How does one ever start a business after such a ban? Does this require a co-founder who runs the marketing?

by mvn9 6y ago

scottrogowski 6y ago
This is something I've been acutely concerned about. I'm working on several side projects right now and I think I will want to try running ads for another one soon. Given that I don't have any power to my name and my emails to their support team seem to go nowhere, I wonder whether I'm completely shut out of their ads ecosystem now.
wwwwwwwww 6y ago
Just don't use AdSense. Starting a business depending on AdSense money is a bad idea to begin with, even if you have a good account. It can just randomly be banned and you will never know why.
- mvn9 6y ago
  And the other way round? How do you make your business known if you cannot buy the top search result position?
  - tinus_hn 6y ago
    Be the best, get some seed customers and get them to do your grass roots advertising?
    - 9HZZRfNlpR 6y ago
      The problem is that real world doesn't work like that, you might as well start playing lottery instead.
rchaud 6y ago
You hire a digital marketing agency or a marketing manager that has contacts inside Google Ads to get you unflagged. I work at a national nonprofit and while we could handle the marketing in house, we simply get too much in donations from Google Ads to risk being randomly flagged with no recourse. $3k/month to an agency to handle all the Google/Bing/FB ad campaigns and A/B testing and to deal with Google's automated BS gives us close to 10x the ROI.
- type0 6y ago
  This is also how racketeering works in some places. "Your club needs to hire our guy and we'll leave you alone."
  - ravar 6y ago
    Except I don't think racketeering is even what google aimed for. Just too much lazy automation.
- bsder 6y ago
  > You hire a digital marketing agency or a marketing manager that has contacts inside Google Ads to get you unflagged. Google might prefer to get broken up for monopoly before the racketeering cases get started.

How does one ever start a business after such a ban? Does this require a co-founder who runs the marketing?

by mvn9 6y ago

How does one ever start a business after such a ban? Does this require a co-founder who runs the marketing?

This is something I've been acutely concerned about. I'm working on several side projects right now and I think I will want to try running ads for another one soon. Given that I don't have any power to my name and my emails to their support team seem to go nowhere, I wonder whether I'm completely shut out of their ads ecosystem now.

wwwwwwwww 6y ago

Just don't use AdSense. Starting a business depending on AdSense money is a bad idea to begin with, even if you have a good account. It can just randomly be banned and you will never know why.

mvn9 6y ago
And the other way round? How do you make your business known if you cannot buy the top search result position?
- tinus_hn 6y ago
  Be the best, get some seed customers and get them to do your grass roots advertising?
  - 9HZZRfNlpR 6y ago
    The problem is that real world doesn't work like that, you might as well start playing lottery instead.

rchaud 6y ago

You hire a digital marketing agency or a marketing manager that has contacts inside Google Ads to get you unflagged. I work at a national nonprofit and while we could handle the marketing in house, we simply get too much in donations from Google Ads to risk being randomly flagged with no recourse. $3k/month to an agency to handle all the Google/Bing/FB ad campaigns and A/B testing and to deal with Google's automated BS gives us close to 10x the ROI.

type0 6y ago
This is also how racketeering works in some places. "Your club needs to hire our guy and we'll leave you alone."
- ravar 6y ago
  Except I don't think racketeering is even what google aimed for. Just too much lazy automation.
bsder 6y ago
> You hire a digital marketing agency or a marketing manager that has contacts inside Google Ads to get you unflagged. Google might prefer to get broken up for monopoly before the racketeering cases get started.