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How are these changes going to be set in stone? What prevents the next administration from undoing it? Personally I tend to lean towards privatizing or elimina
by jmckib 6y ago
How are these changes going to be set in stone? What prevents the next administration from undoing it?
Personally I tend to lean towards privatizing or eliminating the USPS, but the timing for this isn't good if you care about people being able to vote in the upcoming election. There are going to be hiccups when we really need the USPS to be working at top efficiency. Imagine if hundreds of thousands or millions of ballots are tossed because they didn't arrive in time due to delivery delays.
- nickff 6y agoThere is no way to prevent future administrations from rolling back changes, but the further along those changes are, the more difficult the roll-back is. The counter-argument to your second point is that no matter when you do this, it will be painful, so you might as well rip the bandage off as quickly as possible. You may find it unconvincing, but there it is.
- jimkleiber 6y agoBut even if we should privatize, shouldn't it be done by Congress? Shouldn't the executive branch by responsible for enforcing the law that the legislative branch writes?
- nickff 6y agoI would agree that Congress should be the group doing this, but executive powers have grown to the point that this type of action seems possible. I think Obama's quote aptly captured the reality of the situation: >"I've got a pen and I've got a phone - and I can use that pen to sign executive orders and take executive actions and administrative actions that move the ball forward." I am staunchly opposed to the continuous growth of these powers, but each party seems to support them when their guy is president, and Congress seems unwilling to take action.
- jimkleiber 6y agoI hear ya and appreciate you bringing that quote. Sometimes we get so attached to party (people) that we forget about the laws. I guess I keep getting hit by the "why now" part: is it worth privatizing the USPS now, which seems to save < $10B per year, to jeopardize the legitimacy of the election in a time of such deep uncertainty?
- nickff 6y agoWell, if I were in the executive branch and saw it as my priority, prerogative, and last chance to privatize the post office, I would probably do the same. In some ways, this is comparable to the situation with DACA, in that it was important to the party in control of the executive branch, they didn't have the ability to pass legislation, and they thought it had to get done urgently.[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_Action_for_Childhood_Arrivals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_Action_for_Childhood_...
- jimkleiber 6y agoBut out of all things you could do before leaving office, in the middle of a pandemic, why would privatizing the post office be in the top 5? A small and maybe easy win amongst your crowd? Maybe this is so hard for me to see because I have very very fond memories of the post office. I had the same mail carrier deliver mail for almost all of my childhood. He became a pseudo-uncle to me. He was always there. And it's hard for me to imagine that people have anything but love and tenderness for the USPS.
- nickff 6y agoSounds like you had a great person as your point of contact with the USPS, and that it favorably shaped your view of the service at large. I have had mixed experiences with many different carriers, and have no particular fondness for any of the organizations, though some of the people (at each) have been very good, kind, and helpful. I don't know why this was a priority for people in the current administration, though I view privatization of the USPS as a generally laudable goal.
- jmckib 6y agoYes, I do find that counter-argument unconvincing. Do you? It will always be painful, but right now it is especially painful because of a contentious election in three months that is going to rely on mail-in ballots more than ever before. And given Trump's history, it's very reasonable to be suspicious of his motives for doing this now.
- triceratops 6y ago> Personally I tend to lean towards privatizing or eliminating the USPS, The USPS is funded nearly entirely by postage revenue.[1] Why do you support privatizing it when it doesn't cost any taxpayer money? 1. https://facts.usps.com/top-facts/ https://facts.usps.com/top-facts/