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I'm in Palo Alto - sounds like maybe you are too? The best networking option available is Comcast Gigabit Pro (2gbps both up and down). I wrote up details her

I'm in Palo Alto - sounds like maybe you are too? The best networking option available is Comcast Gigabit Pro (2gbps both up and down). I wrote up details here: https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeNetworking/comments/fs6un2/comcast_gigabit_pro/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeNetworking/comments/fs6un2/comc... These two articles are also helpful: - https://binaryimpulse.com/2019/11/comcast-gigabit-pro-install/ https://binaryimpulse.com/2019/11/comcast-gigabit-pro-instal... - https://medium.com/@Gtwy/comcasts-2000mbit-fiber-to-the-home-f106d64d5f51 https://medium.com/@Gtwy/comcasts-2000mbit-fiber-to-the-home... If you're not looking to spend that much, Comcast gigabit (non-pro) is cheap and gets you 1gbps down, but only 35mbps up. They're annoying to interact with, but once it's set up it's reliable. Pro-tip: Ignore the Comcast website prices/packages. The only way to work with them is to call and get a friendly sales rep, then ask them to look through their options to find the best gigabit only plan (they have a lot more promotions available than they list online). This might take a few tries if you get someone on the phone that isn't very good. Comcast Twitter support is also pretty helpful. You should be able to get something around ~$80, but it might require a multi-year contract to lock in the price. I also had to add $50/month to remove the 1TB cap because of this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Comcast/comments/dqwsnj/comcast_data_usage_doubles_for_no_obvious_reason/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Comcast/comments/dqwsnj/comcast_dat...

stevenjgarner 6y ago
That is not gigabit. That is 35MB. Big difference. Internet MUST be symmetrical. There are too many essential peer-to-peer technologies for it to be anything but symmetrical.
- easton 6y ago
  Gigabit Pro is symmetrical, normal Gigabit is not. Gigabit Pro is FTTH (whereas all of Comcast's other plans go over copper/DOCSIS3), and is symmetrical 2Gbps. For $300 per month with a mandatory $2k install, I might add. You have to call them to get a quote, but here's a good blog post with the important info: https://binaryimpulse.com/2019/11/comcast-gigabit-pro-install/ https://binaryimpulse.com/2019/11/comcast-gigabit-pro-instal...
- fossuser 6y ago
  It's not 35mbps, it's 1gbps down and 35mbps up, internet "must be symmetrical" isn't true. 1gbps down and 35mbps up is a lot better than 35/35. For clarity, the gigabit pro (2gbps) is both up and down.
- leetcrew 6y ago
  to me, a symmetric connection is more of a "nice to have" than a "need". I have something like 400/25 right now. if I had 400/400 or even 1000/1000, I might consider reconfiguring my plex server to stream outside my LAN, but aside from that I can't think of any obvious application. can you list some of these "essential peer-to-peer technologies" that a normal person would be likely to use?
  - admax88q 6y ago
    Even just backing up your shit to the cloud is way nicer with good upload. Its also a bit of a chicken egg situation. If the majority of internet users had good upload maybe some "killer" p2p apps would be developed.
ThePowerOfFuet 6y ago
I saw your future plan in your reddit post and I just wanted to let you know that the UDM Pro is a dumpster fire from a software perspective. Wait until they've got it stable, likely around 1.8 or 1.9.
- fossuser 6y ago
  Thanks - yeah I ended up holding off because I saw the UDM Pro was unstable (also no NextDNS support yet). I'm currently still on the USG and regular comcast gigabit.
notJim 6y ago
Wow, this is awful. I live in Portland, and have symmetric gigabit fiber from CenturyLink for $65/mo. Honestly baffling to me that people tolerate the politics of Silicon Valley.
- fossuser 6y ago
  I come from Western New York, where (at the time) 20mbps was the best available option and it was over $100. I hear things are a little better now (though 100mbps may still be the best available), but the options here are way better. I think 2gbps is rare to find anywhere?
  - notJim 6y ago
    Sure it's a great speed, but $300/mo plus a $2k install just to get a decent upload? Seems like market segmentation where they're basically just ripping anyone off who wants to run a little server or backup their files to the cloud.
    - fossuser 6y ago
      Yeah, it'd be nicer to have symmetric gigabit for less, but the gigabit pro is actual fiber to the home (it doesn't run over coax lines). Comcast includes a Juniper ACX2100 switch for layer 2 and bringing the fiber into the house. I thought that was pretty cool. (Well 'includes', you have to pay to rent it from them.)
smilekzs 6y ago
I'm in East Bay and also on Comcast gigabit non-pro only (no TV). Signed up at $90 with no contract and so far it's been as stable as I had in Seattle with CenturyLink (fiber to building). I did buy my own DOCSIS modem so that could be part of the equation.

stevenjgarner 6y ago

That is not gigabit. That is 35MB. Big difference. Internet MUST be symmetrical. There are too many essential peer-to-peer technologies for it to be anything but symmetrical.

easton 6y ago
Gigabit Pro is symmetrical, normal Gigabit is not. Gigabit Pro is FTTH (whereas all of Comcast's other plans go over copper/DOCSIS3), and is symmetrical 2Gbps. For $300 per month with a mandatory $2k install, I might add. You have to call them to get a quote, but here's a good blog post with the important info: https://binaryimpulse.com/2019/11/comcast-gigabit-pro-install/ https://binaryimpulse.com/2019/11/comcast-gigabit-pro-instal...
fossuser 6y ago
It's not 35mbps, it's 1gbps down and 35mbps up, internet "must be symmetrical" isn't true. 1gbps down and 35mbps up is a lot better than 35/35. For clarity, the gigabit pro (2gbps) is both up and down.
leetcrew 6y ago
to me, a symmetric connection is more of a "nice to have" than a "need". I have something like 400/25 right now. if I had 400/400 or even 1000/1000, I might consider reconfiguring my plex server to stream outside my LAN, but aside from that I can't think of any obvious application. can you list some of these "essential peer-to-peer technologies" that a normal person would be likely to use?
- admax88q 6y ago
  Even just backing up your shit to the cloud is way nicer with good upload. Its also a bit of a chicken egg situation. If the majority of internet users had good upload maybe some "killer" p2p apps would be developed.

ThePowerOfFuet 6y ago

I saw your future plan in your reddit post and I just wanted to let you know that the UDM Pro is a dumpster fire from a software perspective. Wait until they've got it stable, likely around 1.8 or 1.9.

fossuser 6y ago
Thanks - yeah I ended up holding off because I saw the UDM Pro was unstable (also no NextDNS support yet). I'm currently still on the USG and regular comcast gigabit.

notJim 6y ago

Wow, this is awful. I live in Portland, and have symmetric gigabit fiber from CenturyLink for $65/mo. Honestly baffling to me that people tolerate the politics of Silicon Valley.

fossuser 6y ago
I come from Western New York, where (at the time) 20mbps was the best available option and it was over $100. I hear things are a little better now (though 100mbps may still be the best available), but the options here are way better. I think 2gbps is rare to find anywhere?
- notJim 6y ago
  Sure it's a great speed, but $300/mo plus a $2k install just to get a decent upload? Seems like market segmentation where they're basically just ripping anyone off who wants to run a little server or backup their files to the cloud.
  - fossuser 6y ago
    Yeah, it'd be nicer to have symmetric gigabit for less, but the gigabit pro is actual fiber to the home (it doesn't run over coax lines). Comcast includes a Juniper ACX2100 switch for layer 2 and bringing the fiber into the house. I thought that was pretty cool. (Well 'includes', you have to pay to rent it from them.)

smilekzs 6y ago

I'm in East Bay and also on Comcast gigabit non-pro only (no TV). Signed up at $90 with no contract and so far it's been as stable as I had in Seattle with CenturyLink (fiber to building). I did buy my own DOCSIS modem so that could be part of the equation.