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Actually, if you donate, literally none of it will go to Firefox. You'd be donating to the Mozilla foundation, not the Mozilla corporation, which develops Fire

Actually, if you donate, literally none of it will go to Firefox. You'd be donating to the Mozilla foundation, not the Mozilla corporation, which develops Firefox. P.s the Mozilla foundations CEO makes 2.5 million dollars a year, and said "it would be too much a financial burden to cut C suite salaries to 500k" https://mobile.twitter.com/steveklabnik/status/1293233620711243776 https://mobile.twitter.com/steveklabnik/status/1293233620711...

miken123 6y ago
I did not know that. Thanks for the information, as I can now cancel my donation and save a couple of bucks each month.
jacques_chester 6y ago
After link chasing from that Tweet, this appears to be the underlying quote: > Here's what I mean by mitigate: we ask our executives to accept a discount from the market-based pay they could get elsewhere. But we don't ask for an 75-80% discount. I use that number because a few years ago when the then-ceo had our compensation structure examined, I learned that my pay was about an 80% discount to market. Meaning that competitive roles elsewhere were paying about 5 times as much. That's too big a discount to ask people and their families to commit to. https://answers.thenextweb.com/s/mitchell-baker-aGY62z https://answers.thenextweb.com/s/mitchell-baker-aGY62z
- oliwarner 6y ago
  > That's too big a discount to ask people and their families to commit to. I'm aghast. How could anyone survive on $500k?! Everybody at the yacht club would laugh at you. It would be simply beastly. I know they play this game against the likes of Google and Microsoft but they have favour with people because they're not Google or Microsoft, because their product is driven by engineering, not repeatedly tainted by management. These job losses shouldn't be at product level, they should clean out management, restructure to bring engineering up to board level, kick out the suits that are only there for the cheque.
- rasz 6y ago
  This quote would make sense if those executives ran a successful company with a lot of users, not a sinking ship almost solely propped by market gorilla in fear of becoming sanctioned monopoly.
- sincarne 6y ago
  But 100% for those made redundant is just fine.
DavideNL 6y ago
So how to donate to (or buy products from?) the Mozilla corporation that develops Firefox?
- stu2b50 6y ago
  You can't donate. But you can purchase some of their paid products, like their upcoming VPN.
Gaelan 6y ago
> You'd be donating to the Mozilla foundation, not the Mozilla corporation, which develops Firefox. Do you know of a good source of neutral information on Mozilla's Foundation/Corporation split? I've heard claims everywhere from "it's an accounting thing with no practical implications" to "Mozilla is now 100% for-profit and evil", and have no idea who's right.
- stu2b50 6y ago
  I don't think such a thing exists. It's a pretty niche topic. The Mozilla foundation is a non profit which owns all of Mozilla corporation. Because foundation is a non profit, donations to it are tax deductible. They also cannot funnel money into corporation, either, as a result. It's not that easy to be a tax evasion vehicle. It does mean that the corporation is not beholden to external equity owners; its just beholden to the foundation. But the corporation is also 100% for profit, although they evidently struggle to earn said profit. Mozilla isn't quite a non profit nor a for profit company in aggregate as a result.

miken123 6y ago

I did not know that. Thanks for the information, as I can now cancel my donation and save a couple of bucks each month.

jacques_chester 6y ago

After link chasing from that Tweet, this appears to be the underlying quote: > Here's what I mean by mitigate: we ask our executives to accept a discount from the market-based pay they could get elsewhere. But we don't ask for an 75-80% discount. I use that number because a few years ago when the then-ceo had our compensation structure examined, I learned that my pay was about an 80% discount to market. Meaning that competitive roles elsewhere were paying about 5 times as much. That's too big a discount to ask people and their families to commit to. https://answers.thenextweb.com/s/mitchell-baker-aGY62z https://answers.thenextweb.com/s/mitchell-baker-aGY62z

oliwarner 6y ago
> That's too big a discount to ask people and their families to commit to. I'm aghast. How could anyone survive on $500k?! Everybody at the yacht club would laugh at you. It would be simply beastly. I know they play this game against the likes of Google and Microsoft but they have favour with people because they're not Google or Microsoft, because their product is driven by engineering, not repeatedly tainted by management. These job losses shouldn't be at product level, they should clean out management, restructure to bring engineering up to board level, kick out the suits that are only there for the cheque.
rasz 6y ago
This quote would make sense if those executives ran a successful company with a lot of users, not a sinking ship almost solely propped by market gorilla in fear of becoming sanctioned monopoly.
sincarne 6y ago
But 100% for those made redundant is just fine.

DavideNL 6y ago

So how to donate to (or buy products from?) the Mozilla corporation that develops Firefox?

stu2b50 6y ago
You can't donate. But you can purchase some of their paid products, like their upcoming VPN.

Gaelan 6y ago

> You'd be donating to the Mozilla foundation, not the Mozilla corporation, which develops Firefox. Do you know of a good source of neutral information on Mozilla's Foundation/Corporation split? I've heard claims everywhere from "it's an accounting thing with no practical implications" to "Mozilla is now 100% for-profit and evil", and have no idea who's right.

stu2b50 6y ago
I don't think such a thing exists. It's a pretty niche topic. The Mozilla foundation is a non profit which owns all of Mozilla corporation. Because foundation is a non profit, donations to it are tax deductible. They also cannot funnel money into corporation, either, as a result. It's not that easy to be a tax evasion vehicle. It does mean that the corporation is not beholden to external equity owners; its just beholden to the foundation. But the corporation is also 100% for profit, although they evidently struggle to earn said profit. Mozilla isn't quite a non profit nor a for profit company in aggregate as a result.