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Which is still a disgusting and unethical use of technology.

kittiepryde 6y ago
It could be. It even might be. The baseline expectation, a better traffic forecast, is not good or evil -- but it is a benefit many people want.
- kgraves 6y ago
  Unfortunately it is under a company known for shutting down products and that spies on you. It is better to use alternatives like Open Street Map, or if there was absolutely no other option, Apple Maps.
t0mas88 6y ago
I use Waze, I'm choosing to give them my driving data to get information on traffic in return. That's not unethical, that's a choice I actively make. Them selling my data to others without telling me is unethical, but that's not the case that Jet describes.
- kgraves 6y ago
  Would you be interested in giving them your phone number? how about your contacts as well? maybe your own voice? apps have you've installed? and when you're not using the app, keep them posted on your location while you're at it too. > Them selling my data to others without telling me is unethical. Don't you think Google does this to you already?
  - greggman3 6y ago
    Can you link to some evidence showing where google is selling data to others?
    - kgraves 6y ago
      Ever heard of 'Real Time Bidding?', Google sells your data to advertisers to the highest bidder [0]. Planning on becoming an activist? I've got news for you, law enforcement also want your data and Google sells it to them upon request at any time. [1] [0] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/google-says-it-doesnt-sell-your-data-heres-how-company-shares-monetizes-and https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/google-says-it-doesnt-... [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/24/technology/google-search-warrants-legal-fees.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/24/technology/google-search-...
      - greggman3 6y ago
        I don't think either of those links say what you think they say.
        kgraves 6y ago
        Do you believe Google when they say 'We do not sell personal information to anyone?'
  - t0mas88 6y ago
    I know they do, but a lot of their users don't which is unethical. But this comment was about the Jet database listing a use case about speed vectors. There is absolutely nothing unethical about that use case nor technology. All the other issues you list, absolutely, but those are not things Jet does.
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DLA 6y ago
Do you use Google or Facebook or Twitter? Do you think you're not being precisely tracked/profiled with those services?
- kgraves 6y ago
  > Do you use Google or Facebook or Twitter? No I don't. I actively refuse to use these surveillance services.

It could be. It even might be. The baseline expectation, a better traffic forecast, is not good or evil -- but it is a benefit many people want.

kgraves 6y ago
Unfortunately it is under a company known for shutting down products and that spies on you. It is better to use alternatives like Open Street Map, or if there was absolutely no other option, Apple Maps.

t0mas88 6y ago

I use Waze, I'm choosing to give them my driving data to get information on traffic in return. That's not unethical, that's a choice I actively make. Them selling my data to others without telling me is unethical, but that's not the case that Jet describes.

kgraves 6y ago
Would you be interested in giving them your phone number? how about your contacts as well? maybe your own voice? apps have you've installed? and when you're not using the app, keep them posted on your location while you're at it too. > Them selling my data to others without telling me is unethical. Don't you think Google does this to you already?
- greggman3 6y ago
  Can you link to some evidence showing where google is selling data to others?
  - kgraves 6y ago
    Ever heard of 'Real Time Bidding?', Google sells your data to advertisers to the highest bidder [0]. Planning on becoming an activist? I've got news for you, law enforcement also want your data and Google sells it to them upon request at any time. [1] [0] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/google-says-it-doesnt-sell-your-data-heres-how-company-shares-monetizes-and https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/google-says-it-doesnt-... [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/24/technology/google-search-warrants-legal-fees.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/24/technology/google-search-...
    - greggman3 6y ago
      I don't think either of those links say what you think they say.
      - kgraves 6y ago
        Do you believe Google when they say 'We do not sell personal information to anyone?'
- t0mas88 6y ago
  I know they do, but a lot of their users don't which is unethical. But this comment was about the Jet database listing a use case about speed vectors. There is absolutely nothing unethical about that use case nor technology. All the other issues you list, absolutely, but those are not things Jet does.

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DLA 6y ago

Do you use Google or Facebook or Twitter? Do you think you're not being precisely tracked/profiled with those services?

kgraves 6y ago
> Do you use Google or Facebook or Twitter? No I don't. I actively refuse to use these surveillance services.