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I love the looks of this phone and I think I could make use of the features, but I'm not $1400-curious. I guess I'm cheap, but I'll be fine with a Pixel 4a at

I love the looks of this phone and I think I could make use of the features, but I'm not $1400-curious. I guess I'm cheap, but I'll be fine with a Pixel 4a at $350.

tasogare 6y ago
Yes, $1400 for a phone based on the concept that might be unusable in practice is quite a high price tag. Also, we all know how much Microsoft paid attention to device updating in the past. If this is not a huge commercial success (and it won’t), this will be forgotten in 18 months by MS.
emodendroket 6y ago
I have a Pixel 2 XL and until the battery starts failing or they stop updating the software it's hard to see much reason to upgrade. It used to be really noticeable every time you got a new phone how much faster it was but I think that's kind of plateaued if you don't use your phone for anything too exotic.
- Roritharr 6y ago
  I'm on the same phone and if I wouldn't have kids I'd agree, but the dropped frames on video recording and lack of optical zoom make me eyeing the new Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra if they decide to make it available in Europe.
  - emodendroket 6y ago
    I don't doubt that Xiaomi makes good stuff, but with the current political situation I'd be hesitant to buy any Chinese Android phone because I'd be afraid of them getting cut off from the Google ecosystem like Huawei (who also made great phones and the only smartwatch I actually liked using) did.
    - Roritharr 6y ago
      I'm also considering the Samsung Note 20 Ultra for this very reason, but I really loathe Samsung Software so I'm hesitant.
      - emodendroket 6y ago
        Samsung is all over the place; some stuff they make is great and others I rue having bought.
- gabrielsroka 6y ago
  Pixel 2 XL will get updates until October 2020.
justaguyhere 6y ago
dumb question - why do phones cost so much? for 1400, we can get a pretty good laptop. Is it harder to make phone hardware than laptop hardware - because of size etc?
- tonyedgecombe 6y ago
  What it costs to make is irrelevant to the price, it's all about what people are willing to pay. Phones have become indespensible for many people, it's easy to justify spending more on something you use all the time.
- majewsky 6y ago
  Because there's a market, and because having an expensive phone goes a long way to making it feel premium.

I love the looks of this phone and I think I could make use of the features, but I'm not $1400-curious. I guess I'm cheap, but I'll be fine with a Pixel 4a at $350.

tasogare 6y ago

Yes, $1400 for a phone based on the concept that might be unusable in practice is quite a high price tag. Also, we all know how much Microsoft paid attention to device updating in the past. If this is not a huge commercial success (and it won’t), this will be forgotten in 18 months by MS.

emodendroket 6y ago

I have a Pixel 2 XL and until the battery starts failing or they stop updating the software it's hard to see much reason to upgrade. It used to be really noticeable every time you got a new phone how much faster it was but I think that's kind of plateaued if you don't use your phone for anything too exotic.

Roritharr 6y ago
I'm on the same phone and if I wouldn't have kids I'd agree, but the dropped frames on video recording and lack of optical zoom make me eyeing the new Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra if they decide to make it available in Europe.
- emodendroket 6y ago
  I don't doubt that Xiaomi makes good stuff, but with the current political situation I'd be hesitant to buy any Chinese Android phone because I'd be afraid of them getting cut off from the Google ecosystem like Huawei (who also made great phones and the only smartwatch I actually liked using) did.
  - Roritharr 6y ago
    I'm also considering the Samsung Note 20 Ultra for this very reason, but I really loathe Samsung Software so I'm hesitant.
    - emodendroket 6y ago
      Samsung is all over the place; some stuff they make is great and others I rue having bought.
gabrielsroka 6y ago
Pixel 2 XL will get updates until October 2020.

justaguyhere 6y ago

dumb question - why do phones cost so much? for 1400, we can get a pretty good laptop. Is it harder to make phone hardware than laptop hardware - because of size etc?

tonyedgecombe 6y ago
What it costs to make is irrelevant to the price, it's all about what people are willing to pay. Phones have become indespensible for many people, it's easy to justify spending more on something you use all the time.
majewsky 6y ago
Because there's a market, and because having an expensive phone goes a long way to making it feel premium.