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Don't forget 12 nm is still the best Intel can fab, it might not be world class currently but it's certainly very capable. Imo it's very threatening, especially
by pastrami_panda 6y ago
Don't forget 12 nm is still the best Intel can fab, it might not be world class currently but it's certainly very capable. Imo it's very threatening, especially if they also keep grabbing talent like they seem to be capable of doing.
- mamon 6y agoDon't forget Intel's nanometers are smaller than TSMC nanometers. TSMC 12nm is 25% lower transistor density that Intel's 14nm
- 9nGQluzmnq3M 6y agoWait what? I had no idea this was a thing, can you explain?
- ChoGGi 6y agoEver since (I think) 28nm, companies stopped using nm as an actual gate length and changed it to a marketing size. Edit: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/technology_node https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/technology_node
- chasd00 6y agothat's crazy, and news to me. So now a unit of length is a marketing term. This is even more misleading than branding the word "real" so you can advertise "contains Real(tm) cheese" on food products.
- pkaye 6y agoI think it comes down to what feature length you are measuring. Transistor density seems like a better measure.
- mensetmanusman 6y agoThere is no standard comparison because of different architectures.
- guidedlight 6y agoIntel has 10nm fabrication, which is equivalent to TSMC’s 7nm
- samfisher83 6y agoTheir yields aren't very good at 10nm.
- andreime 6y agoIntel doesn't yet have 10nm https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-says-first-10nm-desktop-cpus-land-in-second-half-of-2021"...the https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-says-first-10nm-desk... company also revealed that its first 10nm CPUs for the desktop won't come to market until the second half of 2021."
- muricula 6y ago10nm Intel CPUs exist. I have seen them with my own eyes. Reading the tea leaves from public statements and articles like that, the yields seem to be crap right now.
- dyingkneepad 6y agoI am typing this reply from a Lenovo Thinkbook 14-IIL, that has a 10nm CPU, also known by its codename Ice Lake. It's not a desktop CPU, it's a mobile CPU, but it's enough to counter your claim that "Intel doesn't yet have 10nm".