> It really feels like a team with too many devs and designers sitting around needing to create work. This is how a lack of a vision manifests - if there was a

> It really feels like a team with too many devs and designers sitting around needing to create work. This is how a lack of a vision manifests - if there was a vision, there would be meaningful work for everyone, instead of people inventing unwanted features to keep themselves busy. And of course, vision needs user & customer research, it's not a thing a 'leader' could hallucinate with no external inputs.